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Yeah, bring back Lochner.The concept of contract seems to elude you
Yeah, bring back Lochner.The concept of contract seems to elude you
Yeah, bring back Lochner.
completely irrelevant and you might even have known that when you posted it.
I realize to be an elitist lefty one has to assume he knows what is better for "the common man" than those people themselves. They need your beneficent leadership if they are ever to escape their benighted existence as wage slaves preyed upon by the evil capitalist Like all children, they need a wise and able parent to teach them and guide them.
"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters." - Daniel Webster
Just the facts, ma'am. And look at the garbage you DO believe.I don't believe your nonsense.
No, not at all. Some of the rich got that way in part by being fairly smart. They are able to discern what others seemingly cannot, namely that without broad-based wealth and demand in the economy, the road gets very rough. The feudalism that you seek is actually a much harder road to travel, even if you do send a smaller check to the IRS. People who understand wealth can see that, but you aren't in that club, so you don't.the only rich who bray for higher taxes tend to be those who believe that such a system actually insulates their position or those who never earned a dime of it in the first place.
completely irrelevant and you might even have known that when you posted it.
I realize to be an elitist lefty one has to assume he knows what is better for "the common man" than those people themselves. They need your beneficent leadership if they are ever to escape their benighted existence as wage slaves preyed upon by the evil capitalist Like all children, they need a wise and able parent to teach them and guide them.
Not much of a lawyer. The Lochner Era was based principally upon defense of a supposed right of contract. You're back to coal trade on the Ohio River in the 18th century.completely irrelevant and you might even have known that when you posted it.
Babble posted in the absence of anything actually meaningful to say.I realize to be an elitist lefty one has to assume he knows what is better for "the common man" than those people themselves. They need your beneficent leadership if they are ever to escape their benighted existence as wage slaves preyed upon by the evil capitalist Like all children, they need a wise and able parent to teach them and guide them.
LOL! Daniel Webster was five years old when the Constitution was written. Try introducing him when the topic is the role of out-and-out elitists in the years leading up to the Civil War."Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters." - Daniel Webster
Just the facts, ma'am. And look at the garbage you DO believe.
No, not at all. Some of the rich got that way in part by being fairly smart. They are able to discern what others seemingly cannot, namely that without broad-based wealth and demand in the economy, the road gets very rough. The feudalism that you seek is actually a much harder road to travel, even if you do send a smaller check to the IRS. People who understand wealth can see that, but you aren't in that club, so you don't.
Not much of a lawyer. The Lochner Era was based principally upon defense of a supposed right of contract. You're back to coal trade on the Ohio River in the 18th century.
Babble posted in the absence of anything actually meaningful to say.
How much money do you make? I think that if you make more than $20,000 you are simply being greedy and should be forced to give the rest of your money to those who are greedy like yourself.
There are certainly "spoiled kid" here but I think you are pointing your finger in the wrong direction.
what exactly is the increase in taxes on someone who has earned income of one million a year from your SS scheme alone?
ALL Americans who earn money would pay the same 12% in FICA tax. Currently between 91 and 93% of Americans pay FICA tax on 100% of their earnings. The rest get a far lower and discriminatory rate based on the 109K cap bringing down their percentage tremendously as the income level rises.
My proposal grants your wish Turtle. You are one of the people who constantly trumpet a flat tax where all pay the same percentage. That is what we are giving you regarding FICA.
ALL Americans who earn money would pay the same 12% in FICA tax. Currently between 91 and 93% of Americans pay FICA tax on 100% of their earnings. The rest get a far lower and discriminatory rate based on the 109K cap bringing down their percentage tremendously as the income level rises.
My proposal grants your wish Turtle. You are one of the people who constantly trumpet a flat tax where all pay the same percentage. That is what we are giving you regarding FICA.
He and the rich dont want a flat tax for social security....they dont need it so they dont want to pay into it..
the more you pay the more you should get back. You want another tax to be yet another scheme to redistribute money from an overtaxed minority to the voters who put your masters in office. FICA was never supposed to be a tax per se so stop the silly rants.
true, it should not be mandatory.
Its a MANDATORY deduction...so what should it have been called.
but it is and always has been....the babyboomers never whined about being FORCED into social security their entire working lives and they never complained...about pay for the greatest generation who mostly didnt pay anything into it and collected it for decades...
This is the new "RICH" the send it to china and we dont want to pay for anything for anyone..im entitled rich just cuz im rich...other lesser humans exist only to make me richer and are disposable...pffffffffffffffft
LOL! I point out the obvious holes in your arguments and the glaring flaws in your phony claims. The fact that you can't defend yourself without calling for some sort of divine intervention on the part of moderators is certainly telling with regard to the degree of desperation you experience here.You keep talking out your rear as to me. As I have noted, every six months or so some new poster comes along and makes such idiotic claims only to get schooled by one of the moderators.
The fact that you believe him isn't really much of an endorsement.Captain Courtesy noted that no one is purely altruistic and I believe him.
The rich have an obligation to stop trying to rape everybody else as they have been trying to do since Reagan, turning up the volume quite considerably under Dirtbag Bush with just wonderful results. You know, we have laws at least here and there requiring criminals to turn over their profits from say writing a book about their crimes to the victims of those crimes. In the same sense, it hardly seems excessive to demand that those who have been stealing from society stop doing that and start paying their own way once again.You pretend that your desire for higher taxes on the wealthy is out of some sort of concern for society as a whole. I call that crap and its obvious that your sanctimonious posts are pretext for greed. . The government wasting more money isn't going to help the middle class and in many ways hurts it by suggesting to the middle class that its the rich, and the rich alone, who have a duty to pay down the deficit and fund all the garbage that the indolent middle class continues to feel entitled to.
No, they contain the sort of logic that you simply can't deal with. Don't take it personally, though. It isn't just you -- it's every other gullible and thoroughly deceived soul on the right-wing as well.Your posts contain the same logic as the pusher who claims what he does is good for his clients while damning us who want the slothful addicts to face cold turkey.
LOL! I point out the obvious holes in your arguments and the glaring flaws in your phony claims. The fact that you can't defend yourself without calling for some sort of divine intervention on the part of moderators is certainly telling with regard to the degree of desperation you experience here.
The fact that you believe him isn't really much of an endorsement.
The rich have an obligation to stop trying to rape everybody else as they have been trying to do since Reagan, turning up the volume quite considerably under Dirtbag Bush with just wonderful results. You know, we have laws at least here and there requiring criminals to turn over their profits from say writing a book about their crimes to the victims of those crimes. In the same sense, it hardly seems excessive to demand that those who have been stealing from society stop doing that and start paying their own way once again.
No, they contain the sort of logic that you simply can't deal with. Don't take it personally, though. It isn't just you -- it's every other gullible and thoroughly deceived soul on the right-wing as well.
the more you pay the more you should get back. You want another tax to be yet another scheme to redistribute money from an overtaxed minority to the voters who put your masters in office. FICA was never supposed to be a tax per se so stop the silly rants.
Social Security's Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance (OASDI) program and Medicare's Hospital Insurance (HI) program are financed primarily by employment taxes. Tax rates are set by law (see sections 1401, 3101, and 3111 of the Internal Revenue Code) and apply to earnings up to a maximum amount for OASDI.
The rates shown reflect the amounts received by the trust funds. In certain years, the effective rate paid by employees, employers, and/or self-employed workers was less than the rate received by the trust funds, with the difference covered by general revenue. See the footnotes for details.
Pointless. In faithful right-wing knee-jerk fashion, you offered up the right-of-contract as some sort of sacred icon or talisman needing only to be waved to have its effect. As any legal novice would have, you then failed to notice any connection at all between that claim and the disgraced Lochner Era that was in quite significant part based upon it. Everything you've posted since then has been the simple gibberish of a failed cover-up.your mindless yapping is silly. You were suggesting that corporations can force people to sign contracts working 90 hours a week. And of course you reject out of hand anything that rejects your smarmy elitist smugness of the trustafarian
Great strategy except for that part about living in Wyoming or Nevada for six months and a day each year. There may be better options that these power-brains haven't thought of yet.In fairness, I know retired people who live in Wyoming or Nevada for 6mos and a day just to avoid state taxes.