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    Re: Malaysia Tribunal finds Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld guilty of war crimes

    Honestly, I'd take this more seriously if the blatant bias and hypocrisy weren't slapping me in the face.
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    Re: Malaysia Tribunal finds Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld guilty of war crimes

    Since Cheney has a new heart now the tribunal is null and void.

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    Re: Malaysia Tribunal finds Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld guilty of war crimes

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Attacking and destroying an entire nation and killing off mass populations because of their court's verdict, isn't the right response. In fact, I'd say that that would defiantly makes the USA a dangerous country and no better than North Korea or Iran.
    You are correct. A surgical strike on the court while it is in session would be a far better approach.
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    Re: Malaysia Tribunal finds Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld guilty of war crimes

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    IMO, labeling leaders with whom one has a foreign policy difference as "war criminals" only dilutes the instruments and standards for dealing with actual war criminals. Bad legal interpretations are not the same thing as willful choice to sanction war crimes. This publicity stunt will garner some attention. It won't help, and could potentially hurt, genuine efforts to curb war crimes and other crimes against humanity.

    IMO, those that OK lies, rendition, torture, killing on a massive scale, Corporate wars, and rationales to excuse egregrious behavior are common traits for Republicans. I'm a bleeding heart Green. I don't approve. Nothing can change the facts that the war was for OIL and generated on lies. Saddam Hussien was no threat to the USA. What the hey, only a million dead Iraqis, anyway.

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    Re: Malaysia Tribunal finds Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld guilty of war crimes

    I've been trying for 5 pages now to try and figure out why I should give a rats-ass what some pissant third world hellhole thinks of Bush, Cheney, and the rest. I can't come up with any good reason.
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    Re: Malaysia Tribunal finds Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld guilty of war crimes

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    Sarcogito is correct. There is neither the stated intention, nor the ability, to enter sovereign US territory, and take those mentioned to Geneva to face the ICC. The point that it is necessary to draw the world's attention to the war crimes which are alleged to have been committed, not only by those people, but also by people such as ex-Prime Ministers Blair and Howard, is a valid one, assuming evidence thereof is in existence.

    The invasion of Iraq, and the fact that it was not conducted by legal force of an UN Security Council Resolution, are indisputable facts, for which a veritable mountain of evidence exists, and the justification given by the Bush administration (that of WMD stockpiles) has proven to be baseless.

    Ex-President George Bush has stated that he authorised water-boarding (regarded internationally as torture), and both detention without trial, and extraordinary rendition, (for which evidence exists) are internationally regarded as crimes. Tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians have died as a result of the invasion, so deeds which may be regarded as crimes against humanity have certainly been committed. It is proper that exactly who was responsible for these crimes be established, even if the power of the US can prevent any punishment being externally imposed.

    As a Brit, I am more than happy for ex-Prime Minister Tony Blair to hauled off to the ICC, to answer for his role in what was done. What puzzles me is the crudely aggressive responses of posters here, against the proposition that something similar be the case with suspected American perpetrators. Why is this so? Are not Americans concerned about their reputation as a just people?
    We're done giving a damn what third world anti-American hellholes think of us. The fact that you'd willingly surrender your former Prime Minister to the judgement of a pack of foreigners says more about you than it does about us.
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    Re: Malaysia Tribunal finds Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld guilty of war crimes

    Quote Originally Posted by leftofabbie View Post
    It's not about the authority of the court in question, it's about the world standing of the US.

    From the OP: "The second "Kuala Lumpur War Crime Tribunal" found" It is about the authority and legitimacy of the "Court".
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    Re: Malaysia Tribunal finds Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld guilty of war crimes

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    IMO, those that OK lies, rendition, torture, killing on a massive scale, Corporate wars, and rationales to excuse egregrious behavior are common traits for Republicans. I'm a bleeding heart Green. I don't approve. Nothing can change the facts that the war was for OIL and generated on lies. Saddam Hussien was no threat to the USA. What the hey, only a million dead Iraqis, anyway.

    It was "all about oil" and yet the price of gas has doubled since BHO took office.

    Where is all that oil?? There is no oil from Libya either, despite murdering their leader.

    That silly line should have been buried along with Saddam Hussein.

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    Re: Malaysia Tribunal finds Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld guilty of war crimes

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It was "all about oil" and yet the price of gas has doubled since BHO took office.

    Where is all that oil?? There is no oil from Libya either, despite murdering their leader.

    That silly line should have been buried along with Saddam Hussein.
    Yes. Big OIL got the war started. The OIL is now in the distribution network controlled by same. Before the war the OIL got to market, the same amount of OIL but Saddam got the booty, in Euros. No change in supply/demand but a change in who shares in the profits. Those same Big OILIES make big money supplying the fuel for wars, so no need to speculate why it behooves them to initiate wars. I mean they profit at least twice under the worst of circumstances. You probably think they are just nice businessmen doing nice business. That's why all the WARS are on the topography with OIL and GAS and Minerals underneath. War and more wars is good for business at both ends. Who'd a thunk it?

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    Re: Malaysia Tribunal finds Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld guilty of war crimes

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    No offense but it seems that you can't let go of that which you have fervenlty loved for decades and it's making your writing damn near incoherent.
    Sorry. I fade in and out of lucidity.

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