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    Re: Ted Nugent explodes at notion he's not a moderate

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I bet you think three weeks paid vacation in Hawaii is not so great either.
    Wouldn't know. Never been. But I have listened to Springsteen alot, and met his band manager and road manager once. He's decent, but not the end all be all of musicians. Then again, I'm not a huge fan of the Rolling Stones either. I got a free VIP set of tickets, VIP parking, VIP seating, blah blah blah. Still didn't enjoy the show .

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    Re: Ted Nugent explodes at notion he's not a moderate

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    I kinda like Springsteen, he had a marketing style that was genius.

    You always hear the musicians come on and say all they care about is music, but actually they care about selling records.

    Springsteen came on as an average guy with torn jeans singing about small towns.
    Another one used the same marketing ploy, John Cougar Melencamp.
    Check their record sales compared to Ted Nugent

    Never underestimate the small town sales of America
    Springsteen and Mellencamp are very good, no question. But Springsteen was not really a "small America" writer, a lot of his stuff was about New Jersey, or moving on from a dark situation, etc. he was more of a social issues rocker, Mellencamp was a "heartland" type of writer for sure. Both have their places in rock and made quite a bit of money doing it, they also happened to hit the right sound at the right time. The 70s were about loud, sloppy, and experimental playing whereas the 80s were about polish, and let's not kid ourselves.....Springsteen and Mellencamp are very polished.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Hardest working man in show business. Back in the day before Bruce, you would buy a ticket to an arena show and if the lead band played for 60 to 75 minutes that was a long time. Along comes Bruce and its the three to four hour show as the standard. That made lots of others lengthen their appearances to at least two hours.
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    Re: Ted Nugent explodes at notion he's not a moderate

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Springsteen and Mellencamp are very good, no question. But Springsteen was not really a "small America" writer, a lot of his stuff was about New Jersey, or moving on from a dark situation, etc. he was more of a social issues rocker, Mellencamp was a "heartland" type of writer for sure. Both have their places in rock and made quite a bit of money doing it, they also happened to hit the right sound at the right time. The 70s were about loud, sloppy, and experimental playing whereas the 80s were about polish, and let's not kid ourselves.....Springsteen and Mellencamp are very polished.
    You have some good points - but the early Springsteen is very much Phil Spector wall of sound from the Fifties alternated with Dylan's DESOLATION ROW - T/ S, ELLIOT THE WASTELAND story telling. He is very 70's. His music is tight - very tight..... perhaps it is polished in the sense that he works like crazy to get it right - at least what he thinks is right.
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    Re: Ted Nugent explodes at notion he's not a moderate

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    I kinda like Springsteen, he had a marketing style that was genius.

    You always hear the musicians come on and say all they care about is music, but actually they care about selling records.

    Springsteen came on as an average guy with torn jeans singing about small towns.
    Another one used the same marketing ploy, John Cougar Melencamp.
    Check their record sales compared to Ted Nugent

    Never underestimate the small town sales of America
    I agree. Also, you get somebody that can find a niche and they are in like Flynn. Look at Toby Keith. He was just a mediocre country singer until 9/11 and then he capitalized on everyone's anger and he started belting out patriotic songs and got rich. He never did a single patriotic song (that I could find) until 9/11, and then there for a while, that's all he did.

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    Re: Ted Nugent explodes at notion he's not a moderate

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Thank you , you just made my point, so why is Ted Nugent being discussed on Debate politics Forum?
    Is it his songwriting capabilities... don't think so
    Is it because of his in depth knowledge of music....don't think so
    Is it because of his guitar playing such as it was or as it is... don't think so
    Is it because he's so interesting ... don't think so

    Maybe it's because of his political speech is so eloquent ... don't think so
    After all threatening to chop the head off a political leader in America seems a bit stupid to me.

    Am I missing something?
    we all know why he is brought up here.... his antics , loud mouth, and political views ( he's been doing the same thing for decades, it's isn't new)

    then we got sidetracked onto his music, and the fact that some folks can't get past his politics and give him credit for being a phenomenal musician and performer.
    one doesn't have to like his music to spot his talent.. and he is talented, uber talented with his guitar ( his vocals , for the last decade or so, are nothing like they once were, but meh, he's 60.. it's understandable)

    Ted is the Ron Jeremy of rock and Roll... he ain't got the biggest or the very best, but he's the hardest working mofo around and has been for over 40 years... and he brings lots of game when he come to town
    he's played arenas, stadiums, and small intimate clubs... rodeos, and NFL games, county fairs and huge mega concerts.... the dude has done it all, and is still doing it all 40 years later, at 60 years old.
    as Supa pointed out, he has one of the greatest tunes from the 70 ( Stranglehold, 1975) that is still relevant and extremely popular to this very day .... oth3r great tunes include cat Scratch fever, Just what the doctor ordered, Stormtroopin; Wango Tango,Great White Buffalo, Baby please don't go ( cover), Fred Bear, Little miss dangerous... and over a hundred more i'm not even mentioning.

    yes, he's brash, often stupid, in your face, and ridiculous in his conservative political rants and raves... and that, not his music, is why people here dismiss his talents and accomplishments, and for no other reason.... you have to close your mind and completely and utterly deny reality to diminish his musical talent.... but taht's normally what partisan politics does to a person, so it's almost understandable.

    i'm not gonna defend his antics or his politics ( I only agree with him on 2nd amendment issues)...that's silly to do and it's perfectly acceptable not to agree with him on that basis.... but damn, I'll defend his musical talents til the cows come home.

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    Re: Ted Nugent explodes at notion he's not a moderate

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You have some good points - but the early Springsteen is very much Phil Spector wall of sound from the Fifties alternated with Dylan's DESOLATION ROW - T/ S, ELLIOT THE WASTELAND story telling. He is very 70's. His music is tight - very tight..... perhaps it is polished in the sense that he works like crazy to get it right - at least what he thinks is right.
    Bruce and the E street are in my top 10 bands of all time... as a band, they play..well.. perfect

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    Re: Ted Nugent explodes at notion he's not a moderate

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    I agree. Also, you get somebody that can find a niche and they are in like Flynn. Look at Toby Keith. He was just a mediocre country singer until 9/11 and then he capitalized on everyone's anger and he started belting out patriotic songs and got rich. He never did a single patriotic song (that I could find) until 9/11, and then there for a while, that's all he did.
    ugh.. toby keith.
    successful as all hell.... not a whole lot of talent there though... nothing unique anyways

    as you say, he found a nice little niche and ran with it.

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    Re: Ted Nugent explodes at notion he's not a moderate

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    Ted is the Ron Jeremy of rock and Roll...
    What the difference between Ron Jeremy and Ted Nugent?

    One makes a living with his big dick and the other is one.


    yes, he's brash, often stupid, in your face, and ridiculous in his conservative political rants and raves..
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    And let's not forget he threatened the POTUS and is a draft dodging coward.


    and that, not his music, is why people here dismiss his talents and accomplishments, and for no other reason...you have to close your mind and completely and utterly deny reality to diminish his musical talent.... .
    Patently false. His music has always sucked. I hated his music long before I knew anything about him as a man.
    Last edited by Top Cat; 05-07-12 at 07:46 PM.

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    Re: Ted Nugent explodes at notion he's not a moderate

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    What the difference between Ron Jeremy and Ted Nugent.

    One makes a living with his dick and the other is one.
    Hot damn that was good..... sure wish I could write stuff like that.
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