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    Osama Bin Laden Raid Wasn't Based On CIA Torture Interrogations, Senators Say

    Two senators privy to classified information angrily dispute the claim by a former CIA official that the Bush administration's coercive interrogation techniques were effective and
    helped locate Osama bin Laden
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    Jose Rodriguez, former head of CIA clandestine services, told the Washington Post last week that he is “certain, beyond any doubt" that the techniques "approved at the highest levels of the U.S. government … shielded the people of the United States from harm and led to the capture and killing of Osama bin Laden."

    But senators Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Carl Levin (D-Mich.) said in a statement on Monday they were "deeply troubled" by Rodriguez's statements that the CIA"s "so-called 'enhanced interrogation techniques' used many years ago were a central component of our success," in finding the al Qaeda leader, killed by U.S. commandos in a raid in Pakistan a year ago Tuesday.

    "This view is misguided and misinformed," the senators wrote.

    Feinstein's Senate Intelligence Committee has prepared a 500-page report that, according to Reuters, concludes that records from the Bush administration fail to support claims that torture was effective in stopping any terrorist attack.

    Feinstein and Levin wrote that the CIA didn't first learn about the courier who led the U.S. to bin Laden's hideout from detainees who were "subjected to coercive techniques." The techniques didn't help identify the courier by name or the location of bin Laden's compound, the senators said.
    "Instead, the CIA learned of the existence of the courier, his true name and location through means unrelated to the CIA detention and interrogation program," wrote Feinstein and Levin in the statement.

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    Hmm i knew this has been said before but a 500 and something damn report... Sounds a wii bit convening. Interesting to see what comes from this..

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden Raid Wasn't Based On CIA Torture Interrogations, Senators Say

    Diane Feinstein, Carl Levin? Surely you jest.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden Raid Wasn't Based On CIA Torture Interrogations, Senators Say

    Torture just results in the tortured saying anything to stop the pain. Kind of like how Romney will say anything to be President.

    Ask McCain. He knows. Both cases.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden Raid Wasn't Based On CIA Torture Interrogations, Senators Say

    Feinstein and Levin wrote that the CIA didn't first learn about the courier who led the U.S. to bin Laden's hideout from detainees who were "subjected to coercive techniques." The techniques didn't help identify the courier by name or the location of bin Laden's compound, the senators said."Instead, the CIA learned of the existence of the courier, his true name and location through means unrelated to the CIA detention and interrogation program," wrote Feinstein and Levin in the statement.
    ahhh... I see what Fienstein did there..wily old gal.

    the only thing "not accurate" she said was that they didn't learn of the existence of the courier through means unrelated to the CIA program.... in fact, Shiek Khalid Mohammed was the person who clued us in to his existence ( and nothing else about him, besides a false story of the courier retiring)...others corroborated his existence.

    she did a lil strawman there... nobody is claiming that enhanced interrogation gave us his identity , name,or his whereabouts, or the whereabouts of OBL'S compound... those specific details came from the Pakistani ISI.. and we then surveiled the compound for a period of time before the raid.


    I think his existence would have been found out in the absence of enhanced interrogation though.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden Raid Wasn't Based On CIA Torture Interrogations, Senators Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    ahhh... I see what Fienstein did there..wily old gal.

    the only thing "not accurate" she said was that they didn't learn of the existence of the courier through means unrelated to the CIA program.... in fact, Shiek Khalid Mohammed was the person who clued us in to his existence ( and nothing else about him, besides a false story of the courier retiring)...others corroborated his existence.



    she did a lil strawman there... nobody is claiming that enhanced interrogation gave us his identity , name,or his whereabouts, or the whereabouts of OBL'S compound... those specific details came from the Pakistani ISI.. and we then surveiled the compound for a period of time before the raid.


    I think his existence would have been found out in the absence of enhanced interrogation though.



    Thats probably true...but there was other info gleened from waterboarding him that has been kept secret and was made available to congress..
    King was doing an interview on CNN where he laid that all out...they did get good info from him...but like all info some can be shared publically and some cannot until the appropriate time...I dont believe enhanced interrogations should be used wholesale...but targeted specific incidents with a narrow goal...Im more than good with...as long as it makes for more ALIVE and HEALTHY combat veterans

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden Raid Wasn't Based On CIA Torture Interrogations, Senators Say

    Two extreme left senators say, LMAO

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden Raid Wasn't Based On CIA Torture Interrogations, Senators Say

    Sure, go ahead and believe Liberals Feinstein and Levin instead of the former head of CIA clandestine services, Jose Rodriguez.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden Raid Wasn't Based On CIA Torture Interrogations, Senators Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Sure, go ahead and believe Liberals Feinstein and Levin instead of the former head of CIA clandestine services, Jose Rodriguez.
    Yeah, the guy that destroyed the evidence....he doesn't have much to back anything he says, does he?
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    Hmm i knew this has been said before but a 500 and something damn report... Sounds a wii bit convening. Interesting to see what comes from this..

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    You mean government lied to us on this issue?!? Say it ain't so.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden Raid Wasn't Based On CIA Torture Interrogations, Senators Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Yeah, the guy that destroyed the evidence....he doesn't have much to back anything he says, does he?
    You mean other than Osamas dirt nap?

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