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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    If you think judges are illiterate fine. Wallow in that pool.
    I could care less about the judge. You were taking teh internetz seriously for a moment, so I thought I'de give you a reality check as a public service. Even if someone claimed to have qualifications on this forum, the forum rules prevent them from giving you enough information to verify, so it's stupid to even ask.

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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I could care less about the judge. You were taking teh internetz seriously for a moment, so I thought I'de give you a reality check as a public service. Even if someone claimed to have qualifications on this forum, the forum rules prevent them from giving you enough information to verify, so it's stupid to even ask.

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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    I'd like to know exactly how it's unconstitutional.
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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Literacy and enough to know that judges are literate.
    Well, I mean, if you can't read a plain English document and you think that other people can when they demonstrably can't, then no, you don't have qualifications.

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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Abortion is not my issue, But this issue is about how Texas spends money to help poor women.
    "The program spends about $35 million a year to provide cancer, diabetes, cholesterol screenings
    and contraception to about 130,000 low-income, uninsured women."
    I think the program has a nuclear option.
    This judge is willing take away all of the other services offered in this program, because Texas
    thinks abortions should be paid for by the individual.

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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    I think something got twisted.

    Here in Oklahoma public funds are NOT allowed to pay for abortions.

    Public funds pay for cancer screenings of various female related parts, birth control and such.

    But not abortions, is Texas different?

    Now seems to me if ALL women's programs are stopped in Texas over this it isn't on the Judge. That would be like blaming a Judge for a mother killing her kids because she was ordered to take a drug test.

    No, this will be on a some out of touch right wing demi-goads.

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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    The whole thing comes down to Texas refusing medicaid payments to PP, which is against the rules a state must follow to receive federal medicaid funds.
    A state can not deny payments to any licensed medical provider who is willing to accept medicaid patients. The state of Texas does not just write a check to PP, they are paying PP for services rendered to patients who are covered by medicaid. Which is what they are now refusing to do.
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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    The whole thing comes down to Texas refusing medicaid payments to PP, which is against the rules a state must follow to receive federal medicaid funds.
    A state can not deny payments to any licensed medical provider who is willing to accept medicaid patients. The state of Texas does not just write a check to PP, they are paying PP for services rendered to patients who are covered by medicaid. Which is what they are now refusing to do.
    I think if Texas really wanted to do this the right way, they would need to do an in depth audit of their accounting and bookkeeping... then make the case that state funds are actually being used against state law.
    that would at least give them a valid pretense to use in legislation defunding them.
    beyond that, I think if Texas feels they can opt out of medicare, and make up their own system to replace it ( along their line of standards), I say go for it .. but something tells me the federal government will not allow that and will do whatever it can to ensure Texas is kept under their thumb.

    personally, I have no problem with a state deciding who they will fund or not fund...I do not enjoy the idea that a company can hold taxpayers hostage like that, no matter what company it is.

    where i think people on the other end of the argument err is in thinking PP holds a monopoly on womens healthcare, and that defunding them means womens will go without healthcare... that's like saying you can't get a hamburger if Burger King isn't around.. you'd have to ignore the rest of the hamburger providers for that to be accurate
    healthcare providers would still exist, womens would still have access to womens healthcare , we need to stop pretending PP is the end all be all in womens health.

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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    I'd like to know exactly how it's unconstitutional.
    Good point. Texas is pretty much free to do whatever it likes. If it wants to ban PP, or Burger King, it can.

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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I think if Texas really wanted to do this the right way, they would need to do an in depth audit of their accounting and bookkeeping... then make the case that state funds are actually being used against state law.
    that would at least give them a valid pretense to use in legislation defunding them.
    beyond that, I think if Texas feels they can opt out of medicare, and make up their own system to replace it ( along their line of standards), I say go for it .. but something tells me the federal government will not allow that and will do whatever it can to ensure Texas is kept under their thumb.

    personally, I have no problem with a state deciding who they will fund or not fund...I do not enjoy the idea that a company can hold taxpayers hostage like that, no matter what company it is.

    where i think people on the other end of the argument err is in thinking PP holds a monopoly on womens healthcare, and that defunding them means womens will go without healthcare... that's like saying you can't get a hamburger if Burger King isn't around.. you'd have to ignore the rest of the hamburger providers for that to be accurate
    healthcare providers would still exist, womens would still have access to womens healthcare , we need to stop pretending PP is the end all be all in womens health.
    If Texas wants to fully fund their medicaid program that's fine, but they can not violate the rules for receiving federal money for medicaid, and continue to get the money.
    They have to follow the rules just like every other state.
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