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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    a whole host of women's health services

    i'm near 60 years old, but i do stay up late... i'm sure i could gather up a comprehensive list of all their services if i were so inclined to do so... but seeing as how you are supposedly an ardent supporter of PP, i'm sure you already know what they do... correct?
    I asked you first. And you seem to be opposed to their objectives. And I'm more curious as to why you would oppose that.

    And yes I know what they do from providing pap smears to breast cancer screenings to abortions AS WELL AS BIRTH CONTROL.

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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    And abortions. Don't forget that.
    Right on. A very valuable resource.

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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Defund ≠ Ban.
    Massive defunding could spell the end to any organization... Conservatives are not worried about PP disappearing. I am not naive, I know a lot pro lifers think PP should be banned.

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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Massive defunding could spell the end to any organization... Conservatives are not worried about PP disappearing. I am not naive, I know a lot pro lifers think PP should be banned.
    It may well end or significantly downsize PP in Texas, but not nationally. Many think it should be disbanded, but there has been no legislative action that points towards that as a possibility.

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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I asked you first. And you seem to be opposed to their objectives. And I'm more curious as to why you would oppose that.

    And yes I know what they do from providing pap smears to breast cancer screenings to abortions AS WELL AS BIRTH CONTROL.
    opposed to their objectives?... what objectives might those be?

    I'm opposed to a few things PP does... but i'm not opposed to them existing or doing their thing

    i'm opposed to them repeatedly trying to step between parent on their minor children.. and i'm opposed to their ' go forth and **** to your hearts content" philosophy of reproductive health ( that cartoon they put out for kids still sticks in my craw).. i'm opposed to their political hypocrisy ( telling their opponents to keep politics out of it, while engaging in politics themselves)

    no one in my family is a customer/patient of PP... we don't use them, we don't need them, we don't support them ( donations or business transactions).. so they are rather irrelevant to us... we have our own doctors
    I used to applaud their adoption referrals services.... but they let that side of the business go to hell .. seems abortion pay better.


    is there a reason you need a list of their services from me?

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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Massive defunding could spell the end to any organization... Conservatives are not worried about PP disappearing. I am not naive, I know a lot pro lifers think PP should be banned.
    i'm not worried about PP disappearing.. they might be the nations largest abortion provider, but they are certainly not the only people who can tend to womens health matters... and i'm sure they have enough customers to stay afloat if defunding happens.


    the PP fanaticism really intrigues me though... most businesses don't command the type of loyalty that PP gets, 'cept maybe sports teams

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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Massive defunding could spell the end to any organization... Conservatives are not worried about PP disappearing. I am not naive, I know a lot pro lifers think PP should be banned.
    I don't know a single "pro-lifer" who objects to Pap smears, etc. It's the abortions to which they object.

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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I don't know a single "pro-lifer" who objects to Pap smears, etc. It's the abortions to which they object.
    Well they also piss and moan when many of the babies of the women they talk out of abortions end up on welfare.

    Walking over long dollars to pick up short dimes.

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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Well they also piss and moan when many of the babies of the women they talk out of abortions end up on welfare.

    Walking over long dollars to pick up short dimes.
    Well those babies should get jobs and support themeselves! /sarcsm

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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    I look at it this way. If a state funds any medical organization then they should ALL be funded equally. If a state funds an organization that gives pap smears then the state should fund all organizations that gives pap smears. If they fund an organization that helps with breast cancer then they should fund all organizations that help with breast cancer.

    In case you don't understand my point it is simple. If the state funds one organization that provides a particular service then the state should fund them all FOR THAT SERVICE. It is perfectly acceptable to not fund a particular service or to fund specific services. But to ban a whole organization from recieving funds because of one service out of dozens that they provide? That is throwing the baby out with the bath water stupidity and bigotry of the highest order. It's called equality under the law. You know..something that our country is supposedly founded upon.

    No state is required to fund abortion and to the best of my knowledge not one single state does. No federal government agency gives money towards it either.

    Anti-abortionists have gone utterly stupid banning ANY funds from going towards PP. PP abortion services make up 3% of their total services. And yet help millions of women across the country with a variety of problems...97% having nothing to do with abortion. All that this tells me is that anti-abortionists have the stick shoved up so high that they would rather millions of women have no help with breast cancer or cervic cancer or god knows what else just to save a few clumps of cells.
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