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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    I don't see how it can be unconstitutional for a state to decide how to spend the constituents money.
    Again, it was $23M in fed dollars, $3M in TX dollars. It was mainly dollars from all of us, TX was not following fed guidelines on disbursement.
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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Absolute nonsense.
    Roe is nonsense. Equal and opposite nonsense is not the solution. Roe is nonsense specifically because the Constitution does not say anything about abortion.

    Now, if you want to say that all you need to ignore the rule of law is to have an overwhelming majority of the public to elect politicians who will willfully ignore the rule of law? Well, unfortunately, yes. That's the root of a lot of problems, I'm afraid.

    Mob rule - it's why pure democracy sucks.
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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    The people that resent funding PP through government coercion probably also want Roe overturned, but that doesn't make defunding anything more than defunding.
    LOL....too funny! Just because that is their goal, it doesn't mean that is what they are working towards.
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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Roe is nonsense. Equal and opposite nonsense is not the solution. Roe is nonsense specifically because the Constitution does not say anything about abortion.

    Now, if you want to say that all you need to ignore the rule of law is to have an overwhelming majority of the public to elect politicians who will willfully ignore the rule of law? Well, unfortunately, yes. That's the root of a lot of problems, I'm afraid.

    Mob rule - it's why pure democracy sucks.
    3 times you have said this in this thread, each time you have been told that it is about the rights of a person, namely a woman. A zygote is not a person.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    3 times you have said this in this thread, each time you have been told that it is about the rights of a person, namely a woman.
    This is not a response to what I said, really. The Constitution does not define any rights relevant to the question of abortion, for women or anyone else. It is a plain English document.

    A zygote is not a person.
    Person being nothing more than a legal construct, this is a truism, doing nothing beyond asserting the central question of the abortion debate.

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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    This is not a response to what I said, really. The Constitution does not define any rights relevant to the question of abortion, for women or anyone else. It is a plain English document.
    What it shows is that you have no understanding of Roe when you go no about "abortion is not in the constitution". The court did not base their decision on a non-existent word in the document.



    Person being nothing more than a legal construct, this is a truism, doing nothing beyond asserting the central question of the abortion debate.
    Doing nothing beyond....? Are you kidding? The defining of a person is the basis for ALL of the constitution, it is all for the the person, the individual.
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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Again, it was $23M in fed dollars, $3M in TX dollars. It was mainly dollars from all of us, TX was not following fed guidelines on disbursement.
    So the fed send money to TX and tells them how to use it? The feds should just send the money to PP themselves.
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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    So the fed send money to TX and tells them how to use it?
    Yes, they put some restrictions on how the program distributes the program funds.

    The feds should just send the money to PP themselves.
    That doesn't guarantee that the funds get to the point of service.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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