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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Interesting 'social Darwinist" take on the matter. So you think ALL deaths are the consequence of the deceased actions?
    Duh, of course not. Some people do actually die of natural causes. Some have their life shortened when someone else takes actions to take away their right to life. Accidents do happen, although the number that are not directly attributable to human actions are rare. The government does have the responsibility to try to protect the rights of individuals from being taken away by the actions of other individuals. That is a legitimate government function. But, if you take a look at the leading causes of death, at least in the US, you will see that the individuals actions and choices played a large role in that death occuring or was the result of actions taken by other people. Besides the above mentioned choices that lead to an individual having or not having healthcare, people also choose whether or not to smoke, they choose their diets, they choose whether or not to wear a seatbelt, and they choose whether or not to exercise. Americas healthcare cost would geatly decrease if Americans simply took better care of themselves and made better choices. However, the government should not dictate those choices.

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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    I don't see how it can be unconstitutional for a state to decide how to spend the constituents money.
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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Defund ≠ Ban.
    And separate but equal isnīt racist.
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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    And separate but equal isnīt racist.
    Well done. One would be hard pressed to make a less relevant, less material comparison. Perhaps next time try using the Nazis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Well done. One would be hard pressed to make a less relevant, less material comparison. Perhaps next time try using the Nazis?
    A Libertarian talking about relevance? Rich. Iīm sorry the point went over your head. Actually, Iīm really not because I could have drawn you a picture and you still wouldnīt have gotten it.
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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    A Libertarian talking about relevance? Rich. Iīm sorry the point went over your head. Actually, Iīm really not because I could have drawn you a picture and you still wouldnīt have gotten it.
    I'm not Libertarian and I still do not see the correlation or relevance. But then again, without a Lobotomy and getting shot in the head two or three times, I probably will never be able to degrees my logic and cognitive functions to the point of understanding Liberals.

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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    A Libertarian talking about relevance? Rich. Iīm sorry the point went over your head. Actually, Iīm really not because I could have drawn you a picture and you still wouldnīt have gotten it.
    Well you see, what he said was that not spending government money on something at all is not the same thing as saying that the something can not exist by law. Which is a true statement, because they are quite obviously not the same thing.


    Comparing that to whether or not having different public facilities for people of different races was racist or not does not, either on its face, or with much scrutiny, make one iota of goddamned sense. But I've noticed that to be an unfortunate hallmark of the left lately (and perhaps it's been going on for perpetuity?) - racebaiting early and often in any topic, regardless of appropriateness.
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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Well you see, what he said was that not spending government money on something at all is not the same thing as saying that the something can not exist by law.
    Yes and I stated that separate but equal wasnīt racist. The point was simple, if you use enough rhetoric you can whitewash the true meaning of legislative action. Conservatives and their reject brethren Libertarians have been trying for decades to ban abortion or as they call it overturn Roe V Wade, defunding PP is just another step in that goal.
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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yes and I stated that separate but equal wasnīt racist. The point was simple, if you use enough rhetoric you can whitewash the true meaning of legislative action. Conservatives and their reject brethren Libertarians have been trying for decades to ban abortion or as they call it overturn Roe V Wade, defunding PP is just another step in that goal.
    Again you don't make sense. Overturning Roe v. Wade is certainly a just goal, but that wouldn't represent a federal ban of abortion. That would require a constitutional amendment (itself also a just goal).




    I mean, what do you think the people that strongly disapprove of Planned Parenthood and resent that any of their federal taxes go towards that foul organization do so in isolation of how they feel about abortion? Of course not. Duh.

    Ending public funding of Planned Parenthood is just that. It doesn't magically overturn Roe. The people that resent funding PP through government coercion probably also want Roe overturned, but that doesn't make defunding anything more than defunding.
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    Re: Judge says Texas can't ban Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Again you don't make sense. Overturning Roe v. Wade is certainly a just goal, but that wouldn't represent a federal ban of abortion. That would require a constitutional amendment (itself also a just goal).
    Absolute nonsense. In the mid-90s Conservatives tried to pass a federal abortion ban ACT. It was vetoed but it proves you donīt need a constitutional amendment of any sort to ban abortion on a federal level. Actually, you donīt need an amendment to ban anything. You just need an act and a majority.
    Last edited by Hatuey; 05-08-12 at 03:44 PM.
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