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OWS plan on blocking New York Bridges, Tunnels, and Ferries on May 1st.

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Ikari said:
Pretty sure this is just regurgitated partisan tripe and nothing more.
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LOL ... yeah, while you hope to end the "corporate state" ... :roll:

I am not your comrade, that's for sure ;)
 
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Ikari said:
That's an ignorant statement. "Want to destroy Capitalism"? Which form? The Corporate Capitalist model we now employ? Sure, there is a lot of anger pointed at our closed off, bought off Corporate Capitalism we employ now. All Capitalism? No, I think there are groups within OWS whom wish to reinstall Free Market Capitalism. I would concur with that assessment. Corporate Capitalism which encourage oligarchy while destroying competition should be done away with, we should return to a free market standard.
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Well get the definition from them then, because I can almost assure you they want freebies. Did you see the demands from the OWS website ever???
 
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Eighty Deuce said:
LOL ... yeah, while you hope to end the "corporate state" ... :roll:

I am not your comrade, that's for sure ;)
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Certainly aren't. I have a certain level of intelligence necessary to be my friend. And again, the whole "communism" thing wore out in the 50's. It's not communism and repeating that mantra only displays how partisan and blind and dishonest you wish to be with this topic.
 
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Rapunzel52 said:
Well get the definition from them then, because I can almost assure you they want freebies. Did you see the demands from the OWS website ever???
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Some certainly likely want freebies. But the overall aggregate message is not one of handouts, but one of outrage at the Corporate State. Or as Mussolini called it...Fascism.
 
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Rapunzel52 said:
Reading what, your tripe???
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Come up with something more than tripe, it's already been used. And if you wanna find out how funny you're being, go back to the post I told you to read and then figure out why your response to it was so utterly and hilariously inaccurate.
 
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Lokiate said:
The Occupy movement is against social and economic inequality, and wants to make everything "fair".
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Brought to mind the words of Winston Churchill:

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherent virtue of Socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
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Is the latter "fair" ? :roll:
 
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Ikari said:
Some certainly likely want freebies. But the overall aggregate message is not one of handouts, but one of outrage at the Corporate State. Or as Mussolini called it...Fascism.
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Fascism? Now who's being partisan, blind, and dishonest?
 
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Lokiate said:
Fascism? Now who's being partisan, blind, and dishonest?
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What are you talking about? Mussolini himself said that fascism is better stated as the Corporate State.

The real problem is that many of you don't even understand the terms you're using.
 
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Ikari said:
The end of the Corporate State. Duh.
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How do we do that? The government?
 
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Ikari said:
What are you talking about? Mussolini himself said that fascism is better stated as the Corporate State.

The real problem is that many of you don't even understand the terms you're using.
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That's the argument the Libbos use when things aren't going their way.
 
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apdst said:
How do we do that? The government?
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In part. It's further restriction upon government and proper regulation. You can't not get rid of the Corporate State without addressing the problems with government which helped create it in the first place.
 
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apdst said:
That's the argument the Libbos use when things aren't going their way.
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Thanks Navy Pride.

Do you guys even understand that you're proving my point?
 
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Ikari said:
What agenda is that now? Can you back it up, or are you just running off at the mouth for some more drive by propaganda?
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The Leftist agenda.
 
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apdst said:
The Leftist agenda.
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I ask again, Can you back it up, or are you just running off at the mouth for some more drive by propaganda?
 
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Ikari said:
Some certainly likely want freebies. But the overall aggregate message is not one of handouts, but one of outrage at the Corporate State. Or as Mussolini called it...Fascism.
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Lokiate said:
Fascism? Now who's being partisan, blind, and dishonest?
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apdst said:
How do we do that? The government?
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I think the logic trail is that we have to fix "Fascism" with "Fascism" ..... :roll:

I think that is what Ikari is saying.
 
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Ikari said:
In part. It's further restriction upon government and proper regulation. You can't not get rid of the Corporate State without addressing the problems with government which helped create it in the first place.
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Who gets to say what, "proper regulation", is? The government? :rofl
 
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Eighty Deuce said:
Brought to mind the words of Winston Churchill:



Is the latter "fair" ? :roll:
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Note I put fair in quotes. They want, by its very definition, a socialist socioeconomic structure. They want a "social ownership" over production and economy, which means production for "direct use", instead of profit accumulation. It's why they target banks, Wall Street, and the "1 percenters".
 
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Eighty Deuce said:
I think the logic trail is that we have to fix "Fascism" with "Fascism" ..... :roll:

I think that is what Ikari is saying.
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The problem there is that it seems like thinking ain't your strong suit. Care to back up your little assertion there, or are you too just running off at the mouth for drive by propaganda?
 
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Ikari said:
The problem there is that it seems like thinking ain't your strong suit. Care to back up your little assertion there, or are you too just running off at the mouth for drive by propaganda?
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Here we go with more ad-homs ....... can't you libbos ever just debate without going stupid all the time ?
 
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apdst said:
Who gets to say what, "proper regulation", is? The government? :rofl
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There are various forms of "proper" regulation. Some are found experimentally, others are proper limitations to government force. You have to have some amount of regulation for a free market. The free market, like the free state, requires a small but proper amount of regulation. As to what the "proper" level is, that's been a debate for centuries. But surely from the data available, no regulation on government seems to be failing us.
 
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Eighty Deuce said:
I think the logic trail is that we have to fix "Fascism" with "Fascism" ..... :roll:

I think that is what Ikari is saying.
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Your on the wrong trail apparently. Lessening corporate influence in our governing body through regulatory measures is not Facism.
 
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Eighty Deuce said:
Here we go with more ad-homs ....... can't you libbos ever just debate without going stupid all the time ?
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Care to back your little assertion there, or are you too just running off at the mouth for drive by propaganda?

I started by saying that some people are so closed off to this that they will refuse to look at the situation rationally and intelligently. You do know you're only proving my point, yes?
 
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