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    Re: 'Occupy' Promises 'Biggest Shut Down The City Of New York Has Ever Seen,' Blockad

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    So tell me what do capitalism and democracy have in common?
    A love of liberty.

    Was this a trick question ?

    Or stupidity ?

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    Re: 'Occupy' Promises 'Biggest Shut Down The City Of New York Has Ever Seen,' Blockad

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    So tell me what do capitalism and democracy have in common?
    Freedom. You didn't know that?

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    Re: 'Occupy' Promises 'Biggest Shut Down The City Of New York Has Ever Seen,' Blockad

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Freedom. You didn't know that?


    Freedom what? Democracy is freedom or is capitalism?

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    Re: 'Occupy' Promises 'Biggest Shut Down The City Of New York Has Ever Seen,' Blockad

    Well, to an extent, Democracy inherently has less "freedom", except inasmuch as it is tied to "limited government". Capitalism, however, includes individual autonomy and liberty as an inherent assumption.

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    Re: 'Occupy' Promises 'Biggest Shut Down The City Of New York Has Ever Seen,' Blockad

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Freedom what? Democracy is freedom or is capitalism?
    You just answered Eighty Deuce's question.

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    Re: 'Occupy' Promises 'Biggest Shut Down The City Of New York Has Ever Seen,' Blockad

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You just answered Eighty Deuce's question.
    So you are saying democracy is freedom?

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    Re: 'Occupy' Promises 'Biggest Shut Down The City Of New York Has Ever Seen,' Blockad

    What I find interesting is that the conservatives don't like oocupy Wall Street movement however many of the ideals that they represent are things that most conservatives want as well. I think it takes balls to do what these folks are doing even if I don't agree with all the methods. The end result that OWS wants is achieved either way and that is to get people regardless of views to pay closer attention to how our economy operates.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: 'Occupy' Promises 'Biggest Shut Down The City Of New York Has Ever Seen,' Blockad

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    What I find interesting is that the conservatives don't like oocupy Wall Street movement however many of the ideals that they represent are things that most conservatives want as well. I think it takes balls to do what these folks are doing even if I don't agree with all the methods. The end result that OWS wants is achieved either way and that is to get people regardless of views to pay closer attention to how our economy operates.
    A large part of the problem is that their message is obscured by their methods. There is a difference between peacably assembling and squatting in a public park for months on end. Additionally, these OWS people don't want to face any of the hardships that are inherent to the idea of Revolution. They seem to think that it should come with free HBO, Cinemax, and in-room air conditioner like Motel 6 does. Maybe some of them should visit Valley Forge, PA before they go back to Zuccoti Park. They're a bunch of whiners. Nothing more. I seriously doubt that any significant number of them are/were/would be willing to BLEED for their cause. I even more heavily doubt amny of them would be willing to shed anyone elses blood for their cause. So, No, they should not be looked up to by Conservatives because they're unwilling to walk the talk.

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    Re: 'Occupy' Promises 'Biggest Shut Down The City Of New York Has Ever Seen,' Blockad

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    What I find interesting is that the conservatives don't like oocupy Wall Street movement however many of the ideals that they represent are things that most conservatives want as well. I think it takes balls to do what these folks are doing even if I don't agree with all the methods. The end result that OWS wants is achieved either way and that is to get people regardless of views to pay closer attention to how our economy operates.
    Which is why I argue against them. They may mean well, but they're doing far more harm than good. It's just one gigantic, disorganized cluster ****, and they need to just stop until they can figure out what the hell it is that they're doing.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    Re: 'Occupy' Promises 'Biggest Shut Down The City Of New York Has Ever Seen,' Blockad

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I even more heavily doubt amny [sic] of them would be willing to shed anyone elses [sic] blood for their cause.
    They are certainly willing to drain other people's wallets for their cause.
    The five great lies of the Left Wrong:
    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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