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Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

Josie said:
Wrong. Hate for any human is no part of Scripture. People who hate gay people were hateful before they even opened the Bible.
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I'm willing for you to provide anything to back that opinion, I will read it. Please provide any evidence that people are predisposed to hate gays.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
That's weird, I can't find you answering that at all, I find you asking it....and then not accepting my answer.

Go ahead and show your answer, Billy.
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:lamo

Oh Gimmie. You are a piece of work. As you told another poster. Go back and read the thread posts. It might refresh your memory. Thanks
 
mac said:
but fag or homo are out of the question, right?
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Those words are attacking people for something they have no control over. And dont say gay is a choice, Im bisexual and NEVER had a choice in the matter, it was just there the same way my attraction to males was...and if you're going to say it is a choice anyway, then back that up by waking up tomorrow and choosing to live as a gay person.
 
mac said:
You mean like you've been doing with Christians?
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This.

Seriously, stop obfuscating the issue people.

/end ferocious rant
 
Gimmesometruth said:
I'm willing for you to provide anything to back that opinion, I will read it. Please provide any evidence that people are predisposed to hate gays.
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Many people are predisposed to hate "difference". That very much is human nature.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
I'm willing for you to provide anything to back that opinion, I will read it. Please provide any evidence that people are predisposed to hate gays.
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Predisposed? Where did I say that? I'm saying that Christ doesn't teach hate for fellow sinners. Quite the opposite. So if you have a person who says they follow Christ, but hate their fellow man, then they're not on the right path and their actions aren't Christ-like. You do realize that people who call themselves one thing can be something entirely different, right?
 
Wake said:
This shows how much you don't know about the Bible.

Because of this, you've eaten your way through this discussion like a worm would an apple.
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You have already admitted that you hate the sin, homosexuality. You derived that from the Bible. This is true of other christians. Other christians confuse the act with the person and hate homosexuals. This has happened throughout history, it happens today.
 
Flippinfunky said:
Those words are attacking people for something they have no control over. And dont say gay is a choice, Im bisexual and NEVER had a choice in the matter, it was just there the same way my attraction to males was...and if you're going to say it is a choice anyway, then back that up by waking up tomorrow and choosing to live as a gay person.
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So as long as it's something that can be controlled it's alright to be an asshole to them?

Gee, I bet many types of religious groups/cultures would like to hear that.
 
Flippinfunky said:
Those words are attacking people for something they have no control over.
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That's an opinion.

and dont say gay is a choice, Im bisexual and NEVER had a choice in the matter, it was just there the same way my attraction to males was...and if you're going to say it is a choice anyway, then back that up by waking up tomorrow and choosing to live as a gay person.
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Why don't you show some proof that it's not a choice?
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Most? You asked for ANY. The point is, the christian source for hatred against homosexuals, comes from the Bible.
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That's what is bothering you? Why didn't you say so. This posting "around Robin Hoods barn" stuff wasn't necessary. Why don't you learn to ask a question directly? Or do you like this point/counterpoint thing.

I don't give a whiz if you're gay. And I would have been just as aggressive if the kids had been gay. I posted several times, you don't hurt kids.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
You have already admitted that you hate the sin, homosexuality. You derived that from the Bible. This is true of other christians. Other christians confuse the act with the person and hate homosexuals. This has happened throughout history, it happens today.
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You're getting at something here. Hating the sin is what scripture teaches. Confusing the act with the person isn't the fault of Christianity, but the fault of the person that's confused.
 
I agree with what he said. :shrug:

Don't think it was "bullying", I think it was calling out blatant hypocrisy.
 
Wake said:
So as long as it's something that can be controlled it's alright to be an asshole to them?

Gee, I bet many types of religious groups/cultures would like to hear that.
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No, I never said it was okay, I simply said if they cant handle it they'll have a hard time in life as adults. Would you call someone a racial slur? or is it wrong? If Im going to attack someone, it's going to be their character, not their race or sexuality because those are things they have no control over.
 
tessaesque said:
I agree with what he said. :shrug:

Don't think it was "bullying", I think it was calling out blatant hypocrisy.
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It's not hypocrisy because he was quoting the Old Testament which Christians are no longer under. Christians don't follow the OT law.
 
tessaesque said:
I agree with what he said. :shrug:

Don't think it was "bullying", I think it was calling out blatant hypocrisy.
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And you agree with him calling the kids who simply got up and left "pansy-assed"?
 
Josie said:
It's not hypocrisy because he was quoting the Old Testament which Christians are no longer under. Christians don't follow the OT law.
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Except, apparently, when it comes to homosexuality.
 
Josie said:
You're getting at something here. Hating the sin is what scripture teaches. Confusing the act with the person isn't the fault of Christianity, but the fault of the person that's confused.
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But here's the thing, we're ALL sinners by default. Being born again doesnt make us sinless, it blinds Jesus to our sin.
 
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a bit of an edit of another's words

Many people are predisposed to fear "difference". That very much is human nature. Hatred of the other comes from fear, it is part of our animal nature. Being human means that some of us can make our way past that initial fear.
 
Wake said:
Incorrect.

It is also mentioned in the NT.
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Not to any extent which would justify the mentality that christians are correct in demeaning homosexuals by denying them rights.
 
tessaesque said:
Not to any extent which would justify the mentality that christians are correct in demeaning homosexuals by denying them rights.
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Exactly. Which is why the people who do it aren't being Christ-like.
 
Josie said:
Predisposed? Where did I say that? I'm saying that Christ doesn't teach hate for fellow sinners. Quite the opposite. So if you have a person who says they follow Christ, but hate their fellow man, then they're not on the right path and their actions aren't Christ-like. You do realize that people who call themselves one thing can be something entirely different, right?
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That is very true. Which makes it odd that so many seem to miss that message, . . . a lot.
 
Here's a hypothetical to chew on:

Let's say I've been invited to a highschool to talk about the sanctity of marriage. Let's also say that during the course of it I get snarky like Dan and start insulting homosexuals and homosexuality. Some kids start to file out. Let's say I call them "pansy-assed."

Is that alright?

Because I'm supposedly religious, suddenly my actions aren't kosher, yet Dan's are? If so that's a mess of hypocrisy imo.
 
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