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Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

Flippinfunky said:
What's sad.... is all the outrage over Dan Savages words towards kids but very little over the harsh, belittling words directed at gays constantly. Why? Because they're "filtered through Jesus" and that somehow makes it okay. I wonder how many of these kids Dan Savage spoke to will commit suicide because of what he said....
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Show me where in the article these school kids were belittling gays? Thanks.
 
Somerville said:
Really an "anti-Christian message" or simply one calling out SOME who call themselves Christian for not accepting the reality of the words found in their holy text?

"verbally abusing children", is a nice use of words. When some teenagers are offended by the speech of a gay-rights advocate, they are "children". If a teenager commits a crime, they are often charged as "adults". So which is it? Where is the line between 'child' and adult?
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Again, what does that have to do with this thread?
 
Billy the Kid said:
I love it when folks mount their high horses when it come to the Catholic priests abusing children. But when it's their man abusing children, hell they're for hanging the kids out to dry. It's good to know where you stand. Thanks.
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Wait...are you talking about Obamas Education czar again?
 
VanceMack said:
Wait...are you talking about Obamas Education czar again?
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:2razz:

Amazing, don't you think?

I've stated here before, I was raised by an athiest, so I really don't care what folks believe. You like it ,I like it for you. I will draw the line at bashing and abuse of people because they believe in "whatever". Religion doesn't scrare me like it does other "non-believers", thus I have to think they not as secure in their "non-belief" as they think they are.
 
Billy the Kid said:
I love it when folks mount their high horses when it come to the Catholic priests abusing children. But when it's their man abusing children, hell they're for hanging the kids out to dry. It's good to know where you stand. Thanks.
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It's the nature of the beast. Also, the abuse from Catholic priests and Dan is very different.
 
mac said:
Maybe that has something to do with the point of the thread...which is Dan Savage and this incident. Is it your opinion that unless a kid commits suicide as the result of an action that that action was not bullying?
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Bullying is an act of repeated aggressive behavior in order to intentionally hurt another person, physically or mentally. Bullying is characterized by an individual behaving in a certain way to gain power over another person.[16]
Norwegian researcher Dan Olweus defines bullying as when a person is
"exposed, repeatedly and over time, to negative actions on the part of one or more other persons." He defines negative action as "when a person intentionally inflicts injury or discomfort upon another person, through physical contact, through words or in other ways".
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Hmmm.....looks like the one time incident that Savage is accused of.....doesn't fit the standard.
 
Removal of Fox News Spin =

So-Called Christian High Schoolers flee anti-bullying conference when views are challenged...
 
hazlnut said:
Removal of Fox News Spin =

So-Called Christian High Schoolers flee anti-bullying conference when views are challenged...
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Sorry, but I don't put much stock in posts like this.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Who cares?
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:shrug:

I do. How's one to have an actual conversation with someone who completely distorts the issue? He completely overlooks Dan Savage's snarky behavior.
 
Somerville said:
Really an "anti-Christian message" or simply one calling out SOME who call themselves Christian for not accepting the reality of the words found in their holy text?
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Yeah, really. HE took the opportunity to push an agenda.

"verbally abusing children", is a nice use of words. When some teenagers are offended by the speech of a gay-rights advocate, they are "children". If a teenager commits a crime, they are often charged as "adults". So which is it? Where is the line between 'child' and adult?
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They are minors, children. And he verbally assaulted them. :shrug:
 
Wake said:
:shrug:

I do. How's one to have an actual conversation with someone who completely distorts the issue? He completely overlooks Dan Savage's snarky behavior.
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No no, who cares what your opinion is of others posts/opinions...you are not the forum arbiter.

But I am glad to see that the "behavior" has gone from "bullying" to "snarky". I agree it was "cutting" and "critical".....especially since the symposium was all about "being edgy".
 
Moderator's Warning:
The personal attacks stop now or people will be removed from the thread.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
No no, who cares what your opinion is of others posts/opinions...you are not the forum arbiter.

But I am glad to see that the "behavior" has gone from "bullying" to "snarky". I agree it was "cutting" and "critical".....especially since the symposium was all about "being edgy".
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I can't discuss this issue with you any more.
 
mac said:
Because he only got one chance to do it? Lol, really?
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Ah...now you are going down the "crimes in the future" road.

Keep reaching with and stretching the "bullying" definition, you still have a chance to massage it into what you want.
 
mac said:
Because he only got one chance to do it? Lol, really?
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I'm not sure if it qualifies as bullying in this instance. Dan was being an ass to these kids, but I'm not sure if that really qualifies for being a bully.
 
Wake said:
I'm not sure if it qualifies as bullying in this instance. Dan was being an ass to these kids, but I'm not sure if that really qualifies for being a bully.
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It doesn't, that is the point.
 
Wake said:
I'd rather hear Mac's opinion.
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I'm not stopping you from it, nor am I stopping his.

I commented on the fact that it was not bullying.

I think I am able to do so.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Ah...now you are going down the "crimes in the future" road.

Keep reaching with and stretching the "bullying" definition, you still have a chance to massage it into what you want.
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He attacked their beliefs and called them names. He bullied them, plain and simple.
 
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