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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    This is some circle dance you're doing. There are 400+ religions, including various Christian religions. Now ask yourself "Why 400+?" - answer they all don't believe the same way. You want to try and corner someone just to mock them about their beliefs.
    Gee Billy....that is the point Savage and others including me are making. Christians do not ALL hold to ALL of the Bible, some is used some is left out. We do not have slavery, we do not justify slavery by quoting from the Bible....because the Bible got slavery wrong. It has many laws concerning how one should treat slaves, but we reject that totally, we understand that slavery is wrong. So if that part of the Bible is wrong, well, there might be other parts wrong too.

    It is not a matter of "mocking", it is a matter of rejecting biblical errors and keeping the good parts.

    Again, you should not use the Bible to condemn gays, it is hypocritical on multiple levels.
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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Um, I think I made that point before you did.



    No, and this is the critical part, like the captain, you did not hear what Savage said.
    What Savage said was: "that we can learn to ignore the bs in the Bible about gay people, the same way we have learned to ignore the bs in the Bible about shellfish, about slavery......"

    What Savage did was to make the same argument as the abolitionists, that even though the Bible contains a lot of law on how slaves are to be treated (and the Talmud contains many "updated" laws on slavery too), we should not use it, we should ignore it....and we do, just as we ignore sacrificing rams, among other Biblical law.



    I suppose it could be "offensive" to fundamentalists who still might practice every Biblical law, but those are not fundamentalists that he spoke to. You are not a fundamentalist, either.

    No, I was not. You, like the Captain, did not listen to what was said. You thought, like the Captain, that Savage condemned the Bible in its entirety, he did not.

    He condemned parts of it.
    Hardly. I made that point long before you showed up in the thread. You, on the other hand, did not until much later. You went right along with backing him on every point he made.

    "The truth often is offensive to believers."-Your first post.

    What Savage did was to make the same argument as the abolitionists, that even though the Bible contains a lot of law on how slaves are to be treated (and the Talmud contains many "updated" laws on slavery too), we should not use it, we should ignore it....and we do, just as we ignore sacrificing rams, among other Biblical law.
    No, he did not. Had he done that he would have not said that slavery was wrong on slavery, he would not have continued to trash it repeatedly for being a false book of crazy ideas.
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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Gee Billy....that is the point Savage and others including me are making. Christians do not ALL hold to ALL of the Bible, some is used some is left out. We do not have slavery, we do not justify slavery by quoting from the Bible....because the Bible got slavery wrong. It has many laws concerning how one should treat slaves, but we reject that totally, we understand that slavery is wrong. So if that part of the Bible is wrong, well, there might be other parts wrong too.

    It is not a matter of "mocking", it is a matter of rejecting biblical errors and keeping the good parts.

    Again, you should not use the Bible to condemn gays, it is hypocritical on multiple levels.


    Gee Gimmie . . . . the thread is about not Christians condemning, although I'm sure there are those who wish it was, but about an "expert on bullying" . . . . . bullying some Christian kids at a conference about . . . . wait for it . . . . bullying. So it looks like you got off track . . . just a tad.

    So what is your take on the thread? Was the "expert" right in what he did, or IYO, was he wrong?

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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    The anti bully is bullying ?

    As many as 100 high school students walked out of a national journalism conference after an anti-bullying speaker began cursing, attacked the Bible and reportedly called those who refused to listen to his rant “pansy assed.”


    Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes
    I 100% agree with him.

    Being raised in the Protestant Church and turning against it - I agree with him completely and I've seen everything he was talking about.
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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    The anti bully is bullying ?

    As many as 100 high school students walked out of a national journalism conference after an anti-bullying speaker began cursing, attacked the Bible and reportedly called those who refused to listen to his rant “pansy assed.”


    Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes

    the guy makes great points, and people are applauding him.

    Are the anti-gays commenting actually watching the video clip.


    And is b.s. really a "curse" word when you're talking to teens.

    Ignore the B.S. in the bible and embrace the rest. What's so hard about that?

    Many REAL Christians would applaud that.

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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    the guy makes great points, and people are applauding him.

    Are the anti-gays commenting actually watching the video clip.


    And is b.s. really a "curse" word when you're talking to teens.

    Ignore the B.S. in the bible and embrace the rest. What's so hard about that?

    Many REAL Christians would applaud that.
    A lot of 'Christians' have never read the Bible and don't know what they're supporting. To be a 'Christian' these days it seems all one has to do is show up at church on Sunday.

    I think the clothing that some of those girls were wearing was indicative of how much they're not embracing their own 'faith'
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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Hardly. I made that point long before you showed up in the thread. You, on the other hand, did not until much later. You went right along with backing him on every point he made."The truth often is offensive to believers."-Your first post.No, he did not. Had he done that he would have not said that slavery was wrong on slavery, he would not have continued to trash it repeatedly for being a false book of crazy ideas.
    Fiddy, I'll make this easier for you since you still can't seem to comprehend (like Captain) that Savage was not "trashing" the ENTIRE Bible...so just answer me this:

    Do you think the abolitionists accepted or rejected the portions of Bible law concerning the handling/treatment of slaves?
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    hardcore

    offensive

    in your face


    ...but absolutely correct.

    the Hypocrisy of those who want to live by the Bible when it comes to homosexuality but ignore 99% of all the other rules & regulations, is breathtaking.
    The hypocrisy is that he just proved it's ok to bash people...so long as it's based on religion rather than sexual preference.
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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    The hypocrisy is that he just proved it's ok to bash people...so long as it's based on religion rather than sexual preference.
    Maybe if he bashed them for their religion until some of them killed themselves they'd be comparable...

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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    Gee Gimmie . . . . the thread is about not Christians condemning, although I'm sure there are those who wish it was,
    Um, the thread IS about Savage's comments about christians hypocritically using the Bible to bully/condemn gay teens. Are you not following along at all?



    but about an "expert on bullying"
    Um, he is not an "expert on bullying", try again
    . . . . . bullying some Christian kids at a conference about . . . . wait for it . . . . bullying.
    If you want to equate his calling journalist students walking out on his speech "pansies" with bullying gay teens that leads to suicide....well there you are.



    So it looks like you got off track . . . just a tad.
    Really....you challenged me on the religion relating to the topic.....and I got off topic? Really?

    So what is your take on the thread? Was the "expert" right in what he did, or IYO, was he wrong?
    Wow....You have been reading this thread, my comments, you get simple facts wrong....and you wonder about my position?
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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