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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    There is no POV. The sun is either up or the sun is down. Intolerance is anti-Christian and anti-American and NO AMERICAN should tolerate it. If that means shaming so-called "christians" into complying with real Christian values, then so be it.

    If you're homophobic or racists, try to no be so thin-skinned when we call you out and expose you for who you are.

    BTW - look up the word "bigoted" in a dictionary.

    No Heterosexual or Homosexual should have to tolerate homophobia and bigotry. Period. There is no POV.
    I think you have some tunnel vision on this issue, so it's probably going to be difficult discussing your points.

    You say intolerance is anti-Christian, yet there there numerous sins that Christians don't tolerate. Do you think to be Christian you should tolerate all sin and ignore the verses in the Bible that directly condemn sin?

    What is a Christian to do? Should the Christian fully follow the Word of God, or should that Christian forsake the Bible to follow the rules set forth by secular and worldly man? Why should a Christian forsake God to follow secular laws, and in the process, damn his soul to Hell? Perhaps the path of Godly righteousness supersedes what the carnal world dictates.

    The point I'm making in this thread is that you, me, Christians, and non-Christians should have the tact and common decency to understand each-other; if it's really so offensive you have the right to civilly leave. That is a far better choice than to get confrontational or violent.

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I think you'll find their comments spineless, toothless, and otherwise harmless. (for the most part)
    While that's probably true that doesn't just apply to the right/far-right, but the left and far-left as well.
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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I think you'll find their comments spineless, toothless, and otherwise harmless. (for the most part)

    This from someone hiding behind a computer screen, bullying kids. If you want to see someone who ius "spineless, toothless," look in the mirror. You know, I know, and everyone on the thread knows you'd never, ever say "man up" to and adult male. All hat and no cattle.

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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    You know, I know, and everyone on the thread knows you'd never, ever say "man up" to and adult homosexual male.
    Methinks this will show the err in his point of view.

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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Has anyone here actually been bullied or seen someone be bullied before?

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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    There is no POV. The sun is either up or the sun is down. Intolerance is anti-Christian and anti-American and NO AMERICAN should tolerate it.
    Tolerate evil in the bible? haha. Too much of that "universal church" stuff rots your brain.

    If that means shaming so-called "christians" into complying with real Christian values, then so be it.

    If you're homophobic or racists, try to no be so thin-skinned when we call you out and expose you for who you are.
    I guess

    BTW - look up the word "bigoted" in a dictionary.
    It means intolerant of other people's opinions. A zealot, a fanatic. It doesn't specify the subject, you can be a Global Warming fanatic and technically be a bigot.

    No Heterosexual or Homosexual should have to tolerate homophobia and bigotry. Period. There is no POV.
    I don't want to hear the sexcapades of heterosexuals, and I certainly don't want to hear the sexcapades of a homosexual. I'm quite intolerant of listening to people's sexcapades. Maybe people should keep that stuff to themselves, it's rude like chewing with your mouth open.

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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    The only thing I could decipher was the last line, and as I pointed out already, both sides used the Bible to justify their positions, the pro slavery Southerners used direct quotes, the Abolitionists had to use interpretations of verse since there is no outright condemning of slavery in the Bible.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    That was my point. Both sides used the book to justify their positions.
    Um, I think I made that point before you did.

    -The speaker did not acknowledge the presence of the other side, only stating that the Book got slavery wrong and trashed Christians for it.
    No, and this is the critical part, like the captain, you did not hear what Savage said.
    What Savage said was: "that we can learn to ignore the bs in the Bible about gay people, the same way we have learned to ignore the bs in the Bible about shellfish, about slavery......"

    What Savage did was to make the same argument as the abolitionists, that even though the Bible contains a lot of law on how slaves are to be treated (and the Talmud contains many "updated" laws on slavery too), we should not use it, we should ignore it....and we do, just as we ignore sacrificing rams, among other Biblical law.



    -You and other posters spent a great deal of time mystified as to why any of this would be in any way justifiably offensive and historically inaccurate.
    I suppose it could be "offensive" to fundamentalists who still might practice every Biblical law, but those are not fundamentalists that he spoke to. You are not a fundamentalist, either.

    Lastly, this shows you were wrong.
    No, I was not. You, like the Captain, did not listen to what was said. You thought, like the Captain, that Savage condemned the Bible in its entirety, he did not.

    He condemned parts of it.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post

    What is a Christian to do? Should the Christian fully follow the Word of God, or should that Christian forsake the Bible to follow the rules set forth by secular and worldly man?
    You don't FULLY follow Biblical law, that is the point.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You don't FULLY follow Biblical law, that is the point.
    Would you please clarify?

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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    What Savage did was to make the same argument as the abolitionists, that even though the Bible contains a lot of law on how slaves are to be treated (and the Talmud contains many "updated" laws on slavery too), we should not use it, we should ignore it....and we do, just as we ignore sacrificing rams, among other Biblical law.
    Considering anyone here who holds stock in a company that profits in China, I don't put much.....stock into Americans who have a holier then thou attitude about slavery.
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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    try to understand -- we don't tolerate intolerance. That's how we get rid of it.
    That was a display of religious intolerance... More specifically, Judeo-Christian intolerance.

    People in this country are afforded religious freedom, which means they are free to worship in the manner they choose, with the constitutional guarantee that they will not be persecuted for those beliefs. Therefore, it is not proper for the government to allow anti-religious speech to be taught or presented in public schools. Both sides are free to publicly express their opposition to the other, but neither should be given a government sponsored forum to do so.

    So it's clear to me that your intolerance for intolerance, is quite selective. It doesn't seem to apply when the intolerance comes from those you agree with, and is directed at those for whom you disagree with.

    Identifying and shaming evil = good.
    I highly doubt you would take that position if someone were to address High School children on Sharia law, honor killings, hate toward women and homosexuals, and the evils practiced by members of radical Islam.

    That's the only reason I still post here on DP -- to identify and shame bad people. And badness is NOT a matter of opinion. It just is. If you don't accept gays and gay marriage, you're a homophobe (a form of ignorant bigotry) and should be shamed into acceptance or get out of our country.
    There is nothing wrong with believing homosexuality is a sin if that is what your religion teaches. The day Christians march in the streets and demand their arrest, or call for violence against them, get back to me because then we have a problem. There also isn't anything wrong with opposing gay marriage, as long as you accept their right to form civil unions. Again, as soon as the call for violence goes out, let me know.
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