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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I sure will!.... right after you let us know why bullying is bad for some and good for others.
    Are you being facetious? There's no way you're comparing some speaker at a high school giving Christian nutbags the middle finger to the real physical and emotional abuse that gay kids in this country go through. Are you? Because that would just be ****ing stupid.
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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Are you being facetious? There's no way you're comparing some speaker at a high school giving Christian nutbags the middle finger to the real physical and emotional abuse that gay kids in this country go through. Are you? Because that would just be ****ing stupid.
    Doesnt make what the speaker did appropriate for the venue he was in...and Ill ask this question again...HOW DID HE MAKE OUT with his presentation as it was...was he in anyway shape or form successful...did he accomplish anything...did he change any minds...

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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Are you being facetious? There's no way you're comparing some speaker at a high school giving Christian nutbags the middle finger to the real physical and emotional abuse that gay kids in this country go through. Are you? Because that would just be ****ing stupid.
    is it as stupid as excusing bullying for one side and castigating it for the other?

    make up your mind.. either bullying is bad or it's good.


    bullying to fight bullies is like using racism to fight racism.. or discrimination to fight discrimination... all very popular, all very wrongheaded.

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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    is it as stupid as excusing bullying for one side and castigating it for the other?

    make up your mind.. either bullying is bad or it's good.


    bullying to fight bullies is like using racism to fight racism.. or discrimination to fight discrimination... all very popular, all very wrongheaded.
    Don't dodge my question. Are you comparing telling off religious fundies to being physically and emotionally abused every day because of your sexuality? Yes or no question.
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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Don't dodge my question. Are you comparing telling off religious fundies to being physically and emotionally abused every day because of your sexuality? Yes or no question.

    not really, as there there is a substantial difference in scope and severity.

    if i'm doing any comparison, it's on principle... in that if bullying is bad for one, it's bad for all...... not all seem to share that as a principle , though. ( yours and thunders, and others, approval of Savage's behavior speaks to this)

    unfortunately for you and Savage, you have no evidence that anyone in that audience was a "religious fundie" who did anything that deserved his scorn or wrath..... for all we know, not one of those kids who walked out ever bullied anyone..... it's a classic guilt by association scenario.... a scenario where you defend the bully.

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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    not really, as there there is a substantial difference in scope and severity.
    Then we're both in agreement that your comparison was bull****.

    Dan Savage has every single constitutional right to tell Christian nutbags off.

    Christian nutbags and homophobic jerkoffs don't have a right to physically and emotional harass gay kids to the point where they want to commit suicide.
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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    who gives a ****? what matters is what actually causes bullying and what can be done to stop it.
    Part of the "stopping", is getting the message out AT CHURCHES for kids to STOP USING BIBLICAL VERSES as an excuse for HARASSMENT.

    If you are truly interested in ending it, you would see the point of Savages argument.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Then we're both in agreement that your comparison was bull****.

    Dan Savage has every single constitutional right to tell Christian nutbags off.

    Christian nutbags and homophobic jerkoffs don't have a right to physically and emotional harass gay kids to the point where they want to commit suicide.
    do the religious folks also have free speech rights?.. or is it like bullying to you, only protected for one side of an issue?

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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    The speaker you and a couple others so defend went much further than saying here was an opportunity to continue that tradition of social justice and spiritual egalitarianism, he said it had no such tradition to begin with. Instead We are expected to merely ignore words, just as others had done, because the Book had gotten everything else "wrong." He said it was a "proslavery" book with no nuance, no acknowledgement of the past liberal and Christian movements which drove the abolitionist movement forward.
    The only thing I could decipher was the last line, and as I pointed out already, both sides used the Bible to justify their positions, the pro slavery Southerners used direct quotes, the Abolitionists had to use interpretations of verse since there is no outright condemning of slavery in the Bible.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    do the religious folks also have free speech rights?.. or is it like bullying to you, only protected for one side of an issue?
    Are you arguing that harassment is protected speech?
    (hint: it is not)

    Or are you trying to argue that calling someone a hypocrite is bullying?
    Last edited by Gimmesometruth; 04-30-12 at 01:51 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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