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    Re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I give them a "pass" just like I do other religions.
    I don't believe Muslims should be condemned en mass, for the actions of a few.

    Individuals make choices, sometimes they use religion to justify their beliefs.
    It doesn't make the individual less responsible and the religion more responsible.
    The religion is a thing, it doesn't speak and act on it's own accord.
    Yes, that does seem to be the standardized playbook written down by the media, and it will only take a nuke in NYC or LA to convince people that it's wrong otherwise, meanwhile cheers.
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    Re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    The "norm". It exists in nature, supposedly god created nature, ergo homosexuality was created by god. To condemn it is hypocrisy.
    My argument is not dependent on a G_d.
    But even under your argument, that G_d created therefore - then G_d's supposed instructions apply.

    But as it is, my argument, not having to do with G_d, involves no hypocrisy.

    They are outside of the norm.

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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post

    Again, if a christian can't handle challenges, provocative or otherwise, then it is a weak structure. If one cannot handle having a belief system challenged, then they should stay indoors, away from the intertubes and whatnot.
    Oh the irony.

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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    LOL, so first you criticize YourStar for admitting a mistake and now you want to unfriend one of the nicest people here because she doesn't agree with you? Are you not confident enough in your position to stand a little disagreement?
    I don't want to be associated with folks I once considered reasonable, who stood up for themselves, who now cave and support irrational positions.
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    Re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I don't know what Jesus was. I like what he said about love though.
    Me too. Christians follow Christ. True Christians aren't bigots. They might disagree with someone who is immoral in their eyes, but they don't persecute them for it. These people bullying gays aren't being Christ-like. Their actions don't come from their studies of Christ, but from hate.


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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Those who know that the bible is wrong on condemning homosexuals can certainly be offended by someone calling the bible "BS". There are ways to present your argument that make it listenable. Attacking the bible, even if you mean to attack certain parts, will not get people to hear your message.
    That was exactly my point...how did he make out they way he presented himself....he got left standing there with his arse in his hands

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    Re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    His behavior and attitude, showed otherwise.

    It's my belief, that the religion is not the real reason.
    It's that gay people are different and thus the main reason behind others bullying them.
    1. Not really.
    2. I disagree. Beliefs are part of the reason. You could also argue that racist beliefs aren't the "real reason" why white supremacists kill black people, but it doesn't change the fact that racist beliefs are a part of the problem and that since they are irrational, they ought to be challenged.

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    Re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    Yes, that does seem to be the standardized playbook written down by the media, and it will only take a nuke in NYC or LA to convince people that it's wrong otherwise, meanwhile cheers.
    Well I had a liberal Muslim friend, he served me, an ethnic Jew, pork.
    He was very spiritual in his belief, just not a fundy.

    I couldn't condemn him, for the actions of others.
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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Oh the irony.
    You really ought to learn the meaning of the term before trying to apply it.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    I REALLY didn't even want to watch the video, because I knew I'd probably want to comment on it. Just been reading the thread since it's inception. OK. I watched the video. I have mixed feelings about it. Firstly, from what I saw, it seemed that the students leaving was a planned event. Too neat. And, at least from what I saw him saying, initially, I really didn't see anything incredibly offensive... and I am probably one of the most religious members on this board. However, my problem with what he was saying was that he was NOT discussing the root causes of hatred towards homosexuality. He was bashing the bible. If he wanted to discuss the root causes, he should have gone a different route. Probably should have discussed the REAL meanings of Leviticus and other passages, indicated how it's not the belief system, but what people take from it that matters, and how the root cause is really a dependency on religion to foster beliefs about sexuality rather than science and research. If he's talking about bullying, he need to present "tools' on how to confront it. You do this by proving people wrong, not by telling people their beliefs or "book" is BS. Overall, I saw the situation as a wash. Not as bad as some have presented, but not really appropriate for the conference.

    Oh, and with a presentation like his, he wouldn't last a minute at DP.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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