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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    How many of those kids act out on their views?
    How do we even know what their views are?

    This anti bully speech was dumb in the first place.
    I'm guessing the vast majority of the people present, don't bully in the first place.
    First off, they know who Dan Savage is. You apparently don't. The suicides of gay teens is a topic among HS journalist students. The cause, the motivation, of the bullying was the the point. Context just seems to be an issue, but then I didn't expect much.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    To review, Dan Savage was invited to the JEA/NSPA high school journalists' convention. Here is what the promo said:

    "Dan Savage was already a popular syndicated columnist when he created the “It Gets Better” video project. He’ll speak at 1 p.m. on Friday, April 13, about alternative media, social media and creating a movement against bullying."

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    The "B.S. in the Bible" rant doesn't appear to be relevant to the topic, and the offensive language wasn't appropriate for this audience. Savage went off his chain.
    I think that's probably what happened too. The school didn't know he was going to start Bible-bashing.


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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Again, you keep missing it, the attack is upon the message first and foremost. Second, the attack on the person comes when they refuse to see the irrationality of holding to their view.

    Those kids are old enough to be challenged on their views since they are capable of acting out with those views.
    No, you keep missing it. Savage was invited to keynote on anti-bullying efforts and the use of alternative social media to help, not to launch an anti-Bible screed. And as good old Aristotle pointed out, if you abuse your audience, you lose them.

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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    I think that's probably what happened too. The school didn't know he was going to start Bible-bashing.
    I figure they expected him to talk about FB and Twitter, etc. as useful social media tools for reaching those who may be victims of bullying.

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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    No, you keep missing it. Savage was invited to keynote on anti-bullying efforts and the use of alternative social media to help, not to launch an anti-Bible screed. And as good old Aristotle pointed out, if you abuse your audience, you lose them.
    I see, when giving a speech about the root causes of the bullying, you should avoid talking about the root causes.

    Brilliant!
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    No, you keep missing it. Savage was invited to keynote on anti-bullying efforts and the use of alternative social media to help, not to launch an anti-Bible screed. And as good old Aristotle pointed out, if you abuse your audience, you lose them.
    A lot of people were clapping though.

    Also, there's nothing wrong with attacking the beliefs that stem from bullying. Do you think there's a problem with attacking racist beliefs that cause bullying?

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    Re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    He didn't seem to be applying it to all Christians. It looked like he was applying it to Christians who do what he mentioned in the video.
    He didn't really differentiate.

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    I agree that calling people "pansies" wasn't the best idea, but again, if he were talking about other types of bigotry like racism and he called racists who walked out "pansies", I doubt people would have a problem with it. It's the sacred nature of Christianity that gets people frustrated about things like this.

    People make speeches to people who agree with them all the time. Those kinds of speeches can have many purposes.
    Yes, but in this case, this is speech to a general audience of high school students.
    Rather than beat up one group of people, he should of been more generic in his criticism.
    Instead he went full retard on Christians.

    Just dumb.
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    re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    First off, they know who Dan Savage is. You apparently don't. The suicides of gay teens is a topic among HS journalist students. The cause, the motivation, of the bullying was the the point. Context just seems to be an issue, but then I didn't expect much.
    Religious people aren't the only ones who bully gays.
    More often than not, people hide behind religion to justify bullying gays, when the truth is closer to them being general douche bags.

    Going after the religion is dumb, when the individuals motivations are not really religious in nature.
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    Re: Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    He didn't really differentiate.



    Yes, but in this case, this is speech to a general audience of high school students.
    Rather than beat up one group of people, he should of been more generic in his criticism.
    Instead he went full retard on Christians.

    Just dumb.
    No, it wasn't. In fact it was to journalist HS students, those who write for HS papers, who have an influence on their audience.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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