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Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

jerry7 said:
Its impossible to have fellowship with God without heeding his word. This doesn't mean perfection it means trying. Everyone sins. You have to work at turning away from it to God. If your obstinate and persistent in sin how can you feel welcomed?
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so, anyone who refuses to stop eating shellfish, everyone who refuses to stop having gay sex, and everyone who refuses to stop praying to statues, should be cast out?
 
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Thunder said:
so, anyone who refuses to stop eating shellfish, everyone who refuses to stop having gay sex, and everyone who refuses to stop praying to statues, should be cast out?
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nah.. obviously they should be bullied by the shellfish eaters, those whom have gay sex, and those whom pray to statues.

that's what i've learned in this very thread.
 
Thunder said:
so, anyone who refuses to stop eating shellfish, everyone who refuses to stop having gay sex, and everyone who refuses to stop praying to statues, should be cast out?
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LOL!! The shellfish thing again?

What Defiles a Person
14 k When He had called all the multitude to Himself, He said to them, "Hear Me, everyone, and l understand: 15 "There is nothing that enters a man from outside which can defile him; but the things which come out of him, those are the things that m defile a man. 16 n "If 9 anyone has ears to hear, let him hear!" 17 o When He had entered a house away from the crowd, His disciples asked Him concerning the parable. 18 So He said to them, p "Are you thus without understanding also? Do you not perceive that whatever enters a man from outside cannot defile him, 19 "because it does not enter his heart but his stomach, and is eliminated, 10 thus purifying all foods?" 20 And He said, q "What comes out of a man, that defiles a man. 21 r "For from within, out of the heart of men, s proceed evil thoughts, t adulteries, u fornications, murders, 22 "thefts, v covetousness, wickedness, w deceit, x lewdness, an evil eye, y blasphemy, z pride, foolishness. 23 "All these evil things come from within and defile a man
 
Thrilla said:
nah.. obviously they should be bullied by the shellfish eaters, those whom have gay sex, and those whom pray to statues.

that's what i've learned in this very thread.
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let us know when homophobic Christians suffer even 1% of the persecution that gays have.
 
Thrilla said:
nah.. obviously they should be bullied by the shellfish eaters, those whom have gay sex, and those whom pray to statues.

that's what i've learned in this very thread.
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And who exactly prays to statues?
 
Thunder said:
let us know when homophobic Christians suffer even 1% of the persecution that gays have.
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Can you be specific about the persecution and who is responsible for it?
 
Thunder said:
about 1 billion Catholics.

and another few hundred million pray to paintings.
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What Catholics are praying to is the person that the statue represents and asking for their intercession with God.
 
Can you be specific? I'm sure that some homosexuals have had crimes committed against them for what they believe. But what group hasn't? And can you be specific about who these homophobic Christians are that people keep alluding to? Other than the 70 members of the Westboro Baptist church?
 
jerry7 said:
Can you be specific? I'm sure that some homosexuals have had crimes committed against them for what they believe. But what group hasn't? And can you be specific about who these homophobic Christians are that people keep alluding to? Other than the 70 members of the Westboro Baptist church?
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so the only Christians who hate gays and homosexuality, are the WBC?

interesting.
 
jerry7 said:
Can you be specific? I'm sure that some homosexuals have had crimes committed against them for what they believe. But what group hasn't? And can you be specific about who these homophobic Christians are that people keep alluding to? Other than the 70 members of the Westboro Baptist church?
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well, obviously it was those evil Christian kids who walked out on Savage ... those "pansy-asses" didn't leave because they objected to Savage.. they left because they were late for the persecution party
 
Thunder said:
so the only Christians who hate gays and homosexuality, are the WBC?

interesting.
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I disagree with WBC...as far as I kn ow the only Christians who agree with their actions are their own members. And it's the same silly argument that disapproval equals hate. What nonsense.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
That's just plain ridiculous. I read what YS said last night. It was too aggressive and she was wrong. She admitted it and that is something that rarely happens here, hence is quite a feat. YOU are being unreasonable because you are making personal evaluations based on whether you agree with someone's position or not.
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I have always found Your Star to be one of the more reasonable and formidable posters on DP. I find that especially inspiring as a moderate conservative. If I wanted an opposing viewpoint, and I wanted to really have a shot at being CONVINCED I might ask her to make the argument.

I was slightly surprised by her position early in this thread (because of what I've seen) but not really surprised at all when she reversed position. That is the mature reasonable logical person I've seen her to be.

Unlike people like Dan Savage and several posters in this thread (including some who agree with me), I am willing to hear the other side when she presents it.
 
Always fun to watch a bitter, angry, hate filled troll put his hatred and intolerance on full display.

Perhaps one might consider those kids that are contemplating and/or attempting suicide do so more because they havent learned the basic reality that their happiness does not depend on others (including their families) acceptance of them but rather it depends on their OWN acceptance of themselves. There is a reason why so many young people end up in San Francisco seeking 'love and acceptance' and end up attempting and committing suicide.

And it MAY be fairly pointed out that a very large number of religious minded folks are very loving, caring, and tolerant of homosexuals and many even support gay marriage. Not ALL professed Christians do...I get that...but Im sure if becomes politically expedient, the president might change that position as well.
 
Thrilla said:
I sure will!.... right after you let us know why bullying is bad for some and good for others.
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Are you being facetious? There's no way you're comparing some speaker at a high school giving Christian nutbags the middle finger to the real physical and emotional abuse that gay kids in this country go through. Are you? Because that would just be ****ing stupid.
 
Hatuey said:
Are you being facetious? There's no way you're comparing some speaker at a high school giving Christian nutbags the middle finger to the real physical and emotional abuse that gay kids in this country go through. Are you? Because that would just be ****ing stupid.
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Doesnt make what the speaker did appropriate for the venue he was in...and Ill ask this question again...HOW DID HE MAKE OUT with his presentation as it was...was he in anyway shape or form successful...did he accomplish anything...did he change any minds...
 
Hatuey said:
Are you being facetious? There's no way you're comparing some speaker at a high school giving Christian nutbags the middle finger to the real physical and emotional abuse that gay kids in this country go through. Are you? Because that would just be ****ing stupid.
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is it as stupid as excusing bullying for one side and castigating it for the other?

make up your mind.. either bullying is bad or it's good.


bullying to fight bullies is like using racism to fight racism.. or discrimination to fight discrimination... all very popular, all very wrongheaded.
 
Thrilla said:
is it as stupid as excusing bullying for one side and castigating it for the other?

make up your mind.. either bullying is bad or it's good.


bullying to fight bullies is like using racism to fight racism.. or discrimination to fight discrimination... all very popular, all very wrongheaded.
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Don't dodge my question. Are you comparing telling off religious fundies to being physically and emotionally abused every day because of your sexuality? Yes or no question.
 
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Hatuey said:
Don't dodge my question. Are you comparing telling off religious fundies to being physically and emotionally abused every day because of your sexuality? Yes or no question.
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not really, as there there is a substantial difference in scope and severity.

if i'm doing any comparison, it's on principle... in that if bullying is bad for one, it's bad for all...... not all seem to share that as a principle , though. ( yours and thunders, and others, approval of Savage's behavior speaks to this)

unfortunately for you and Savage, you have no evidence that anyone in that audience was a "religious fundie" who did anything that deserved his scorn or wrath..... for all we know, not one of those kids who walked out ever bullied anyone..... it's a classic guilt by association scenario.... a scenario where you defend the bully.
 
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