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    Carney: ‘i never lie’

    Jay Carney said he never lies in his capacity as White House press secretary at a Friday scholarship lunch hosted by the White House Correspondents’ Association:
    JAY CARNEY: So I don’t have these moments of crisis very much. Credibility’s enormously important for press secretaries. All of the predecessors, my living predecessors, I spoke with all of them before I took this job. I knew all of them, already. Whether they served a Republican president or a Democratic one, they all talked about the need to maintain your credibility. Which means, when I go and stand up in front of the podium, in front of the White House press corps, I never lie. I never say something that I know is not true. That means when I don’t know the answer to something, I say I don’t know and I’ll take that question, that means that when I—which is often the case, I know more than I can say—I answer it in a way that is truthful without obviously betraying the things that I can’t say for national security reasons or other reasons. But that’s—it’s a fundamental principle of doing the job that, for the folks who cover a president, they have to have some faith–substantial faith—that while they know I can’t say everything, and those who work for the president can’t say everything, what we are saying is true.

    Carney: ‘I Never Lie’ | Washington Free Beacon

    That one gets no less than three LOL's from me, what say you?


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    Even Sam Stein of the Huffington Post concedes that Obama has been campaiging for months. I'd say that Carney's insistence that all of Obama's campaign events have really been routine Presidential business has pretty much blown his credibility.
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    Re: Carney: ‘i never lie’

    Quote Originally Posted by jerry7 View Post
    Even Sam Stein of the Huffington Post concedes that Obama has been campaiging for months. I'd say that Carney's insistence that all of Obama's campaign events have really been routine Presidential business has pretty much blown his credibility.

    Heck, even the atmosphere that he describes his job as in the OP is a textbook example of "lie of omission" .... And telling that of the views, this thread only got one response. Ah well, I guess I shouldn't be surprised at the hypocrisy anymore.


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    Re: Carney: ‘i never lie’

    Obama in 2008 was right... "They must think you're stupid". Not only is that what they think... that's what they KNOW with statements like this from Carney. Of course, the argument could be made: If he actually BELIEVES what he says is truth, is he still lying?

    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Carney: ‘i never lie’

    Dissembling isn't lying per se. It all depends on what "is" is.

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    Re: Carney: ‘i never lie’

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That one gets no less than three LOL's from me, what say you?


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    Yeah whats funnier is that boehner and paul ryan and norquist say they never lie too and fox news hosts....THEY ALL LIE...lol...

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    Re: Carney: ‘i never lie’

    Quote Originally Posted by jerry7 View Post
    Even Sam Stein of the Huffington Post concedes that Obama has been campaiging for months. I'd say that Carney's insistence that all of Obama's campaign events have really been routine Presidential business has pretty much blown his credibility.
    shhh...come closer I want to tell you a secret...all incumbents start campaigning months before it starts...shhh dont tell anyone else...lets just hammer obama on it k

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    Re: Carney: ‘i never lie’

    Carney is being honest when he says he never lies, pathological liars actually believe the lies they tell are true.

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    Re: Carney: ‘i never lie’

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    shhh...come closer I want to tell you a secret...all incumbents start campaigning months before it starts...shhh dont tell anyone else...lets just hammer obama on it k
    The bigger the office, the bigger the target. We all know all incumbants start campaigning earlier thanis reported. However, not every incumbant is as well known or high profile as the President of the United States.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Carney: ‘i never lie’

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Yeah whats funnier is that boehner and paul ryan and norquist say they never lie too and fox news hosts....THEY ALL LIE...lol...

    I wasn't aware that Paul Ryan was the head of a branch of government? Or that he speaks for an entire branch? Jay Carney is tasked with speaking for the POTUS in the daily briefing, and when we know, and can document, if not outright lies, then at the very least subterfuge, and fibs, then credibility is no longer in that purview of his.

    Remember Ari Fleisher? or Scott McClellan? Liberals were merciless with them. Now all the sudden Carney is what? 'Off Limits'?


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