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Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

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Emily Herx, Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

Wow. I hope she owns their asses on this. Unconscionable. As the father of two test tube babies, this pisses me off to no end.

Unfortunately, this all stems from the Supreme Court's lack of defining specifically what a religious employee is.

But from a personal perspective and looking at all the cases that have allowed the Religious schools to dsciminate, why would someone want to work for them that isn't Roman Catholic KNOWING that they can do this?
 
Emily Herx, Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

Wow. I hope she owns their asses on this. Unconscionable. As the father of two test tube babies, this pisses me off to no end.

Private school. If there was any provision in her contract in regards to an ethics clause or something of the sort, I have no issue in terms of legal recourse here. While I may find a belief that a schools standard for firing a teacher should be something like this to be idiotic, I also think that as a private school that's well within their rights.
 
Private school. If there was any provision in her contract in regards to an ethics clause or something of the sort, I have no issue in terms of legal recourse here. While I may find a belief that a schools standard for firing a teacher should be something like this to be idiotic, I also think that as a private school that's well within their rights.

The hypocrisy of the Catholic Church knows no bounds...

There is no good reason for their posture regarding artificial insemination. Who the **** do they think they are suggesting that it is an immoral act?

Two people who can't otherwise bear children taking extraordinary measures to get pregnant is an immoral act?

Wanna bet their "Catholic Hospitals" would cash the parent's checks for child birth?
 
Private organization. They can fire qualified people for stupid reasons.
 
Emily Herx, Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

Wow. I hope she owns their asses on this. Unconscionable. As the father of two test tube babies, this pisses me off to no end.

I think you're missing the point. Unless she is a contracted employee, she can be fired because her eyes are blue. It doesn't appear that firing someone for in vitro fertilization is protected under either U.S. Civil Rights laws or Indiana Civil Rights laws.

Since the Catholic Church condemns IVF as inherently evil acts, should SCOTUS rule in favor of this woman, it's a definite blow to separation of church and state.

I wonder why these teachers aren't required to sign contracts about this sort of thing....?
 
I think you're missing the point. Unless she is a contracted employee, she can be fired because her eyes are blue. It doesn't appear that firing someone for in vitro fertilization is protected under either U.S. Civil Rights laws or Indiana Civil Rights laws.

Oh I get it. But I hope like hell she beats their asses in court. Of course the Archdiocese will file bankruptcy to avoid paying in a typical Catholic sleaze fashion.
 
It just seems like the Mother Church is walking itself farther and farther out onto the plank. The determination to be ever more radical in their interpretation of what is E-Vile and what Gawd blesses... well it just can't keep moderate America filling the pews. Already 98% of Catholic women have used some form of Birth control according to the Guttmacher Institute.

Infallibility is the ticking time bomb here. I figured after the Church ducked behind bankruptcy to avoid court ordered settlements their tax exemption should have been abolished.

Seemed very much against the 'teachings of Christ' to callously avoid paying those hurt by members of the Church and those acts kept hidden by other members.
 
The hypocrisy of the Catholic Church knows no bounds...

There is no good reason for their posture regarding artificial insemination. Who the **** do they think they are suggesting that it is an immoral act?

Two people who can't otherwise bear children taking extraordinary measures to get pregnant is an immoral act?

Wanna bet their "Catholic Hospitals" would cash the parent's checks for child birth?




You hate religious people, This should make you happy that it's harder for them to procreate than you. :shrug:
 
You hate religious people, This should make you happy that it's harder for them to procreate than you. :shrug:

As if morality ever stopped religious people from doing anything. Crusades, hundreds of thousands of child molestation cases, thousands of child molesters in the HCC clergy and suicide bombers in Islam are just a small list of the things which prove that it really wouldn't be that hard for the religious to engage in the oh-so serious act of procreation. For that matter, it wouldn't be "harder".
 
Oh I get it. But I hope like hell she beats their asses in court. Of course the Archdiocese will file bankruptcy to avoid paying in a typical Catholic sleaze fashion.

Pretty interesting stuff from a corporation that tolerates child molestation and protects those who engage in it. The Catholic Church gave up any right to be a moral authority on anything a long time ago.
 
Sues for what? Unless she was protected by an employment contract she has no lawsuit at all.

Oh, congrats on successful parentage. :applaud

Thank you. My girls are indeed miracles. But then all children are.
 
It doesn't appear that firing someone for in vitro fertilization is protected under either U.S. Civil Rights laws or Indiana Civil Rights laws.
Last paragraph of the OP article;
"Herx's lawsuit, filed Friday in U.S. District Court in Fort Wayne, alleges the diocese violated the Civil Rights Act and the Americans with Disabilities Act by discriminating against Herx based on gender and on infertility, which is considered a disability. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission upheld Herx's complaint in January."

Since the Catholic Church condemns IVF as inherently evil acts, should SCOTUS rule in favor of this woman, it's a definite blow to separation of church and state.
Should separation of church and state mean that religious organisations are be free to break the law? Why would that apply to employment discrimination laws and not all the others? Can't they just say "We're religious. This court doesn't apply to us at all." and walk out?
 
You hate religious people,

Patently false. But it won't stop you from making stuff up again now will it?

My entire family is Catholic. My oldest sister was Dominican.

However, I loathe organized religion. Especially the Catholic Church and all its blatant hypocrisy. And I'm certainly not a fan of Bible thumpers. I have no problem with those who believe and mind their own business.

It's when **** like this happens that I get my ass in the air.

This should make you happy that it's harder for them to procreate than you. :shrug:

Having been through, and watched my spouse suffer through 5 failed attempts at AI, I can assure you that you are as wrong you usually are. I don't wish that on any family.
 
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Private school. If there was any provision in her contract in regards to an ethics clause or something of the sort, I have no issue in terms of legal recourse here. While I may find a belief that a schools standard for firing a teacher should be something like this to be idiotic, I also think that as a private school that's well within their rights.

Yeah, but these things are starting to get a bit out of hand. The background digging and finding random things you're doing not at work and then facing repercussions for them at work, etc. I'm starting to think that there are proper restrictions to be placed. Like this is something that I feel is a bit too much an infringement of privacy. Now it's not that I would say there are total restrictions, and certainly private organizations get a bit more freedom in firing. Such as if this teacher said "there's no god" to her students; sure she can be fired for that. But I don't know...I think on some level we're allowing too much nitpicking and people should just shut up and get back to work.
 
As if morality ever stopped religious people from doing anything. Crusades, hundreds of thousands of child molestation cases, thousands of child molesters in the HCC clergy and suicide bombers in Islam are just a small list of the things which prove that it really wouldn't be that hard for the religious to engage in the oh-so serious act of procreation. For that matter, it wouldn't be "harder".



You know if you change "Religious people" to say "hispanics", that might constitute hate speech. :shrug:


Then again if you want to go back to the crusades, We only have to go back to WWII where we see the godless commies, killed what 100 million?


Man doesn't need god to kill his fellow man.
 
Patently false. But it won't stop you from making stuff up again now will it?

My entire family is Catholic. My oldest sister was Dominican.

However, I loathe organized religion. Especially the Catholic Church and all its blatant hypocrisy. And I'm not a fab of Bible thumpers. I have no problem with those who believe and mind their own business.

It's when **** like this happens that I get my ass in the air.



Having been through, and watched my spouse suffer through 5 failed attempts at AI, I can assure you that you are as wrong you usually are. I don't wish that on any family.



You should try to quote me in full to get the proper context. :shrug:
 
You should try to quote me in full to get the proper context. :shrug:

You should try to stop making **** up. There was nothing taken out of context there.

You claimed I hate religious people. That's a lie. And then you made it worse with your additional asinine comment. No shock there.
 
You should try to stop making **** up. There was nothing taken out of context there.

You claimed I hate religious people. That's a lie. And then you made it worse with your additional asinine comment. No shock there.


You've said some pretty nasty things about religion, which are made up of..... "religious people". I'm sorry if I misread you, but you seem quite bitter, and quick to insult people simply based on who they worship.
 
You've said some pretty nasty things about religion, which are made up of..... "religious people". I'm sorry if I misread you, but you seem quite bitter, and quick to insult people simply based on who they worship.

And you would be wrong. Again. I have zero respect for organized religion and those who pimp it.

And why should I be bitter about it? I mean imagine if a company harbored known pedophiles, and moved the employee around to create more victims one of which turned out to be your son and then filed bankruptcy when they got sued?

And you don't quite understand why this might piss people off? Really?
 
And you would be wrong. Again. I have zero respect for organized religion and those who pimp it.

And why should I be bitter about it? I mean imagine if a company harbored known pedophiles, and moved the employee around to create more victims one of which turned out to be your son and then filed bankruptcy when they got sued?

And you don't quite understand why this might piss people off? Really?



So if a manager at an rc cola plant covers up an employee lacing its soda cans with rat poison, we should be pissed off at all of soda kind... Interesting. I think the catholic church had a huge problem on it's hands and they handled it like idiots....

But I'm not ready to start gunning down all catholics in the streets because of it... Like I said, you seem rather intolerant of the religious. :shrug:
 
So this doesn't apply? I haven't read much about the topic, but off the cuff I always assumed every hiring institution is bound by anti-discrimination law.
Saying they are "private" is irrelevant to such laws I thought.

Federal discrimination laws make it illegal for employers to discriminate against employees and job applicants in any aspect of employment based on age, disability, national origin, race, religion, genetics or sex (gender).
 
So if a manager at an rc cola plant covers up an employee lacing its soda cans with rat poison, we should be pissed off at all of soda kind... Interesting. I think the catholic church had a huge problem on it's hands and they handled it like idiots....

But I'm not ready to start gunning down all catholics in the streets because of it... Like I said, you seem rather intolerant of the religious. :shrug:


Clearly there is a reading comprehension problem here. Might I suggest you get some help with that?
 
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