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I had no idea.. Its just a medical procedure.
Well to some people, so is abortion. The Church is against that, too.
I had no idea.. Its just a medical procedure.
That and the fact religous organisations have been granted specific exemptions from certain laws, which is unethical.The Catholic faith finds invitro unethical.
That and the fact religous organisations have been granted specific exemptions from certain laws, which is unethical.
I had no idea.. Its just a medical procedure.
Emily Herx, Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization
Wow. I hope she owns their asses on this. Unconscionable. As the father of two test tube babies, this pisses me off to no end.
The procedure involves fertilizing many eggs. Only a few are actually used for the procedure. The leftovers are then destroyed.
Private school. Teacher knew this when she signed on to teach. If she didn't, then they should have fired her for being to dumb to teach.
That is a bunch of bull****. Did you know that AI was frowned upon by the Catholic Church and that you could be fired for it? You don't know that this was or wasn't spelled out to her either.
Besides, I fail to see what business her reproductive issues are to the church. Hypocritical assholes the lot of them. Do they fire the women on staff who take the pill?
I would suggest to you that most people did not know that.
The difference between against their religion and against their will is a key point.Why is that unethical? I would say it's unethical (and more importantly in relation to our government unconstitutional ) to force people to do something against their religion (or against their will, said a different way)
I don't see why everyone is so bent out of shape over this. She works for a Catholic school. There are certain rules if you want to be a Catholic school teacher. She knows these rules. She chose to not follow them. Now she wants to sue? BS. Whether y'all agree with it or not, the fact remains that she is violating the rules with regards to her employer. If you break the rules at work, you pay then penalty. She's just trying to stir up emotion with this issue, and obviously it's working, just by seeing how lathered up everyone is getting over it in this thread.
Well to some people, so is abortion. The Church is against that, too.
Firing someone for violating their particular religious beliefs smacks of religious discrimination, I don't know how to put it otherwise. Add to that firing her for getting infertility treatment, I don't see how it's anything but discrimination. Interpretation matters, to be sure it may come down either way, but realistically I think it's pretty obvious what's going on. Religious tolerance on matters that collide with reason, is something I just don't have the stomach for.Zyphlin said:While they're ethical standards may be established due to their belief in religion, it is not directly discriminating against her due to HER religion. That would be more along the lines of "You're a muslim, so we're not hiring you".
Private school. Teacher knew this when she signed on to teach. If she didn't, then they should have fired her for being to dumb to teach.
Yes, she should be condemned to eternal damnation because she wanted a baby. God, ya gotta love religion, don't you?
Yes, she should be condemned to eternal damnation because she wanted a baby. God, ya gotta love religion, don't you?
Count on you Mr. Wiggen to drag that old smelly red herring over the trail.
If she's a Catholic then she went into the school knowing their standing on the issue. If not what does she care about the Catholic Church and their "eternal damnation".
See this is what gets me with the "non-believer" - "religion basher", if you don't believe then you should give a wizz about the rules.
It isn't even about that. It's about the fact that she broke the rules set forth by her employer. The baby aspect is just to garner emotion for her case.
And you are what gets me with the religious fanatics. No matter what a church does it's fine because, by God, they're a church and they can do whatever the hell they like. I don't give a 'wizz' about stupid religious dogma. What I do care about are human rights, chief of which would seem to be the right to reproduce and not have it cost you your job.
Don't be silly. The baby is what the case is all about. You guys crack me up with your 'church rules' nonsense, as though that was the only thing that mattered. How about her right to have a baby and still have a job?
And you are what gets me with the religious fanatics. No matter what a church does it's fine because, by God, they're a church and they can do whatever the hell they like. I don't give a 'wizz' about stupid religious dogma. What I do care about are human rights, chief of which would seem to be the right to reproduce and not have it cost you your job.
She knew they would break the law and discriminate against her (her perspective)?
She knew she was going to have fertility trouble when she took the job?
I don't find your argument compelling.
Emily Herx, Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization
Wow. I hope she owns their asses on this. Unconscionable. As the father of two test tube babies, this pisses me off to no end.
Count on you Mr. Wiggen to drag that old smelly red herring over the trail.
If she's a Catholic then she went into the school knowing their standing on the issue. .
Nobody is saying she can't have a baby. What they are saying is she cannot remain a Catholic school teacher and engage in a practice that is forbidden by the Catholic church.