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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    I had no idea.. Its just a medical procedure.

    Well to some people, so is abortion. The Church is against that, too.

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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    The Catholic faith finds invitro unethical.
    That and the fact religous organisations have been granted specific exemptions from certain laws, which is unethical.

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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    That and the fact religous organisations have been granted specific exemptions from certain laws, which is unethical.
    Why is that unethical? I would say it's unethical (and more importantly in relation to our government unconstitutional ) to force people to do something against their religion (or against their will, said a different way)
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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    I had no idea.. Its just a medical procedure.
    The procedure involves fertilizing many eggs. Only a few are actually used for the procedure. The leftovers are then destroyed.
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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Emily Herx, Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Wow. I hope she owns their asses on this. Unconscionable. As the father of two test tube babies, this pisses me off to no end.

    Private school. Teacher knew this when she signed on to teach. If she didn't, then they should have fired her for being to dumb to teach.

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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    The procedure involves fertilizing many eggs. Only a few are actually used for the procedure. The leftovers are then destroyed.
    Actually that is not entirely true, many couples choose to donate them to others less fortunate.

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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    Private school. Teacher knew this when she signed on to teach. If she didn't, then they should have fired her for being to dumb to teach.
    That is a bunch of bull****. Did you know that AI was frowned upon by the Catholic Church and that you could be fired for it? You don't know that this was or wasn't spelled out to her either.

    Besides, I fail to see what business her reproductive issues are to the church. Hypocritical assholes the lot of them. Do they fire the women on staff who take the pill?

    I would suggest to you that most people did not know that.

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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    That is a bunch of bull****. Did you know that AI was frowned upon by the Catholic Church and that you could be fired for it? You don't know that this was or wasn't spelled out to her either.

    Besides, I fail to see what business her reproductive issues are to the church. Hypocritical assholes the lot of them. Do they fire the women on staff who take the pill?

    I would suggest to you that most people did not know that.


    Ignorance of the law is no excuse, yes?


    If I was going to work for a privatge Catholic school, even I would know their basic tenets. It's not like the church hasn't been around for hundreds of years.

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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    Why is that unethical? I would say it's unethical (and more importantly in relation to our government unconstitutional ) to force people to do something against their religion (or against their will, said a different way)
    The difference between against their religion and against their will is a key point.

    Currently, US law only grants an exception on the grounds of a organisation's religious rules. A secular organisation with an equally strong moral basis is not granted the same exception. Also, a religious individual running a secular organisation can be forced to act against their faith on the grounds of these laws.

    The point is that the elected government of your states and country have determined that discriminating against individuals on the basis of certain characteristics is wrong, and is significant enough to impose laws preventing people and organisations from doing so.

    If it's wrong, it's wrong. The fact some has a religious basis to their discrimination doesn't magically make it less wrong just as someone basis discrimination on a strong secular moral basis would. There is no moral justification for having a rule or law but adding "unless you're religious" at the end.

    The constitutional issue doesn't change the morality question. Taking freedom of religion to it's logical conclusion, it would mean that no law can apply to any religious individual or organisation if they feel that following it goes against their religious beliefs. Obviously that is not how it is interpreted in practice which raises the difficult question of why it is applied to some laws but not others (and, if only indirectly, to some religions and not others).

    I know it's a mortal sin to say so in America, but maybe the Constitution (at least as interpreted) is immoral.

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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    I don't see why everyone is so bent out of shape over this. She works for a Catholic school. There are certain rules if you want to be a Catholic school teacher. She knows these rules. She chose to not follow them. Now she wants to sue? BS. Whether y'all agree with it or not, the fact remains that she is violating the rules with regards to her employer. If you break the rules at work, you pay then penalty. She's just trying to stir up emotion with this issue, and obviously it's working, just by seeing how lathered up everyone is getting over it in this thread.
    Yes, she should be condemned to eternal damnation because she wanted a baby. God, ya gotta love religion, don't you?
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