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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Legally speaking, they're not discriminating against her due to her religion...they're discriminating against her for an action she's taken that violates the ethical standards they believe their employees should uphold.
    Legally speaking, you have got it all mixed up.
    She IS suing the diocese for:
    " violating the Civil Rights Act and the Americans with Disabilities Act by discriminating against Herx based on gender and on infertility, which is considered a disability. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission upheld Herx's complaint in January."



    While they're ethical standards may be established due to their belief in religion, it is not directly discriminating against her due to HER religion. That would be more along the lines of "You're a muslim, so we're not hiring you".
    Um...the diocese is claiming violation of RELIGIOUS DOCTRINE, not ethical standards.
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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Private school. If there was any provision in her contract in regards to an ethics clause or something of the sort, I have no issue in terms of legal recourse here. While I may find a belief that a schools standard for firing a teacher should be something like this to be idiotic, I also think that as a private school that's well within their rights.
    I would bet the ethics clause is broad enough for the employers to interpret it most any way they wish. Additionally, private school teachers are usually employed by year to year contracts. I'm not sure what she hopes to gain from this.

    Additionally, Indiana is an employment at will state.
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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Private school. If there was any provision in her contract in regards to an ethics clause or something of the sort, I have no issue in terms of legal recourse here. While I may find a belief that a schools standard for firing a teacher should be something like this to be idiotic, I also think that as a private school that's well within their rights.
    What ethics are involved here?

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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    I would bet the ethics clause is broad enough for the employers to interpret it most any way they wish. Additionally, private school teachers are usually employed by year to year contracts. I'm not sure what she hopes to gain from this.

    Additionally, Indiana is an employment at will state.
    Really? She had her rights violated, she was terminated from her position, her professional reputation has been damaged, she was damned by the diocese. Monetary compensation would help.
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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Unfortunately, this all stems from the Supreme Court's lack of defining specifically what a religious employee is.

    But from a personal perspective and looking at all the cases that have allowed the Religious schools to dsciminate, why would someone want to work for them that isn't Roman Catholic KNOWING that they can do this?
    It's impossible to define a religious employee without 1st defining (and therefore endorsing) religion. And it's not the courts job to define such things. That is the legislature's job.
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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    My 1st thought was "How did they find out?" with Hipa laws and all.
    She volunteered the information.
    She deserves to be fired on that fact alone.
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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    What ethics are involved here?
    The Catholic faith finds invitro unethical.
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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No one is saying she can't excercise her rights. Only that when she does, there are concequences.

    Isn't that the argument that the Libbos use all the time?

    Leave it to the right wing loons to make this about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Leave it to the right wing loons to make this about them.
    Wait, weren't you the one that brought up your "test tube" kids? It seems to me you were the first to make it about your self.... so I think your barking up the wrong "loon" tree.
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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    The Catholic faith finds invitro unethical.
    I had no idea.. Its just a medical procedure.

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