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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Really? You're going with that moronic response?

    The only thing weird is the lack of comprehension among self proclaimed and closeted conservatives around here.

    The "Church" as I refer to it, is the governing body and its archaic rules and beliefs. (never mind its criminal acts) Lots of those who are Catholic and decent people, do not follow some or many of those rules. The majority of Catholic women for example use birth control. A big no no.

    Surely you can discern the difference between those who attend church and those who govern it? Oh wait, clearly you can't.
    So you do hate Catholics. You hate the ones who govern the rest of the flock.


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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Just for ****s and giggles, let's throw this out there: Let's say a Liberal, Jewish school fired a teacher for eating bacon...

    We'd all be cool with that, right?


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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

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    Emily Herx, Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Wow. I hope she owns their asses on this. Unconscionable. As the father of two test tube babies, this pisses me off to no end.
    She will not win her case because it's a private organization. You have to acknowledge and respect the fact that there are some religious people who own their own private establishments.

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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Just for ****s and giggles, let's throw this out there: Let's say a Liberal, Jewish school fired a teacher for eating bacon...

    We'd all be cool with that, right?
    If we're going to be fair, we're going to apply this standard to all religious institutions. A Jewish school could very well do that, iirc.

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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    She will not win her case because it's a private organization. You have to acknowledge and respect the fact that there are some religious people who own their own private establishments.
    Private organisations still have to obey anti-discrimination laws. She might not win because religious organisations are granted a special exception to those laws.

    Do you think religious people should have to follow the same laws are the rest of us or should the law not apply to them?

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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    Private organisations still have to obey anti-discrimination laws. She might not win because religious organisations are granted a special exception to those laws.

    Do you think religious people should have to follow the same laws are the rest of us or should the law not apply to them?
    I think that religious people have the right to exercise their religious freedoms and standards in the establishments they own. How is it fair for a religious establishment to exist if the secular government pokes its head into their ways? There must be a seperation of church and state.

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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I think that religious people have the right to exercise their religious freedoms and standards in the establishments they own. How is it fair for a religious establishment to exist if the secular government pokes its head into their ways? There must be a seperation of church and state.
    And yet Rastafarians can't smoke pot. And Mormons can't have marriages bigger than two people.

    But those are against the law, right? Well, so is firing people for discriminatory reasons. You can't have it both ways.
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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Just for ****s and giggles, let's throw this out there: Let's say a Liberal, Jewish school fired a teacher for eating bacon...

    We'd all be cool with that, right?
    Whether you agree with it or not is irrelevant. If eating bacon breaches a teacher's contractual obligation, the religious school can fire that person.

    If you don't like the constraints of working in a parochial school then work somewhere else. Its that simple.
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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I think that religious people have the right to exercise their religious freedoms and standards in the establishments they own.
    But should they have greater rights than everyone else has to exercise our freedoms and standards in our own establishments? If people running a secular school had a set of moral rules, they still wouldn't be able to sack people for being, for example, homosexual. The laws against discrimination on the grounds of sexuality supersede personal freedom in that situation. As I understand US legislation as it sands, religious organisations alone are permitted to break those laws at will. I fail to see how that can be morally justified.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    There must be a seperation of church and state.
    So no secular laws should apply to the religious?

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    Re: Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Really? What rights were violated? Check her ethics clause and get back to me.



    Emily Herx, Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization
    I know what the diocese defense is, you are taking the diocese position. Her claim is that she had her rights violated, apparently twice now you have skipped over it, once when I posted the charge to Zyp on the same page you quoted me from, and the second time when you did not read the entire article you quoted from....which is where my original info came from. Open your eyes.


    Herx's lawsuit, filed Friday in U.S. District Court in Fort Wayne, alleges the diocese violated the Civil Rights Act and the Americans with Disabilities Act by discriminating against Herx based on gender and on infertility, which is considered a disability. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission upheld Herx's complaint in January.
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