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    Re: Senate votes to abandon budget control act

    Balanced Budget Amendment. Congress will never fiscally police itself. With a law in place at least the special interest groups will have another obstacle in their way.
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    Re: Senate votes to abandon budget control act

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dog View Post
    Balanced Budget Amendment. Congress will never fiscally police itself. With a law in place at least the special interest groups will have another obstacle in their way.
    Sorry Ive got to punch holes in that. California has a balanced budget ammendment. Its not worth the paper its printed on if the governing body in question just borrows its way around the ammendment---which California certainly did.

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    Re: Senate votes to abandon budget control act

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Sorry Ive got to punch holes in that. California has a balanced budget ammendment. Its not worth the paper its printed on if the governing body in question just borrows its way around the ammendment---which California certainly did.
    Point taken. Unless we prohibit borrowing as part of the BBA.
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    Re: Senate votes to abandon budget control act

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Sorry Ive got to punch holes in that. California has a balanced budget ammendment. Its not worth the paper its printed on if the governing body in question just borrows its way around the ammendment---which California certainly did.
    Which is why any such document should not be written as solely a spending plan. My suggestion has always been that any such amendment needs to cap spending at 90% of the expected income for the state in the next fiscal year. If the anticipated income is $100 Million, the budget cannot exceed $90 Million. Any monies in excess of that $90 Million that are collected would be put in a fund for emergency expenses (national disaster, war spending, etc....) and could only be touched with a 75% majority vote of both Houses of Congress and the signature of the POTUS and at least 5 members of the SCOTUS.

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    Re: Senate votes to abandon budget control act

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    I'd love to see the fight that would insue when the platform committee gets together for this 3rd Party.

    I don't much like the 2 parties we have now, but throwing in another party would, IMO, sink the country.
    So how would creating a new place for citizens to "peaceably assemble", away from the morally corrupt and conspiring 4 largest political parties that exist now, sink the country exactly?

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    Re: Senate votes to abandon budget control act

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Yeah, that's often used as the reason we don't need them. The power of encumbancy is so strong that getting a sitting Congressman voted out of office is a very difficult thing to do. It shouldn't be. Eight years and out. Then, maybe in their 7th and 8th years they'd actually vote in the best interests of the American people instead of their own.
    The "incumbents" are the political parties not the candidates.

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    Re: Senate votes to abandon budget control act

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    So how would creating a new place for citizens to "peaceably assemble", away from the morally corrupt and conspiring 4 largest political parties that exist now, sink the country exactly?

    You're gonna have to give me an example of the "new place for citizens to "peaceably assemble", away from the morally corrupt and conspiring 4 largest political parties". I haven't a clue as to what you mean and how this would work.

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    Re: Senate votes to abandon budget control act

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    Yeah, told you so.



    another non-solution.

    The real solution is to create a new political party but you're all too lazy for that.
    The problem is we have about two too many political parties now. We'd be far better off with no political parties and with strict term limits, no terming out in one job and then going to another.
    "Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud... [he's] playing the American public for suckers." Mitt Romney

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    Re: Senate votes to abandon budget control act

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The problem is we have about two too many political parties now. We'd be far better off with no political parties and with strict term limits, no terming out in one job and then going to another.
    I'm sure a Libertarian would think that way considering how much they failed with their try.

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    Re: Senate votes to abandon budget control act

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    You're gonna have to give me an example of the "new place for citizens to "peaceably assemble", away from the morally corrupt and conspiring 4 largest political parties". I haven't a clue as to what you mean and how this would work.
    "new place for citizens to "peaceably assemble"" is a new poltical party

    "morally corrupt and conspiring 4 largest political parties" is the Democrat/Republican/Green/Libertarian Party that agree on all the real issues that actually effect your life.

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