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    Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    Child Labor Laws | Farming | Department of Labor | The Daily Caller

    A proposal from the Obama administration to prevent children from doing farm chores has drawn plenty of criticism from rural-district members of Congress. But now it’s attracting barbs from farm kids themselves.The Department of Labor is poised to put the finishing touches on a rule that would apply child-labor laws to children working on family farms, prohibiting them from performing a list of jobs on their own families’ land.
    Under the rules, children under 18 could no longer work “in the storing, marketing and transporting of farm product raw materials.”
    “Prohibited places of employment,” a Department press release read, “would include country grain elevators, grain bins, silos, feed lots, stockyards, livestock exchanges and livestock auctions.”
    More invasion into the private lives of families, in a manner that is more harmful than helpful.
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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    This is a terrible idea. I worked summers on my uncles ranch. Good way to learn. I also thought this was absurb, "

    "The new regulations, first proposed August 31 by Labor Secretary Hilda Solis, would also revoke the government’s approval of safety training and certification taught by independent groups like 4-H and FFA, replacing them instead with a 90-hour federal government training course.
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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    This is silly. My father grew up on a farm for awhile during childhood. He got up at 5am, collected eggs, fed and watered the chickens and pigs, re-laid the hay in the pig pen, and then had breakfast and went to school. After school he milked the one cow on site, pruned a section of the fields, and then did homework. None of that is really any different than having your child do laundry, wash dishes, vacuum, etc...except the farm work is outside.

    I understand coercing children from the "neighborhood" to come out and work on the farm, but agricultural states already have rules in place for that. In Michigan, the Sackriders (corn and cattle farmers) would employ school children during the summer to tassel the corn. You made $0.25 per stalk with an average of 100 stalks in a row. You could do a row in about 2 hours, so it came out to about $12.50 an hour. Michigan had rules in place for these positions. The children didn't have to pay taxes on the income, so no I-9 or W2 information was required, however a workers permit provided by the student's school had to be filled out and filed. We couldn't work more than 6 hours a day and had to have constant access to drinking water while on the job. You also had to be at least 12 years old.
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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    The regulation is appears not to be aimed at at families or small farms.

    The FLSA also provides a complete exemption for youths employed on farms owned by their parents.
    WHD News Release: US Labor Department proposes updates to child labor regulations [08/31/2011]


    Young workers employed on small farms, with parental consent, are also exempt from the child labor provisions of the FLSA.
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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    The regulation is appears not to be aimed at at families or small farms.

    The FLSA also provides a complete exemption for youths employed on farms owned by their parents.
    WHD News Release: US Labor Department proposes updates to child labor regulations [08/31/2011]


    Young workers employed on small farms, with parental consent, are also exempt from the child labor provisions of the FLSA.
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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    Just another pathetic example of our current liberal administration thinking they know what best for our citizens and being determined to implement their agenda by force of government.

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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    The regulation is appears not to be aimed at at families or small farms.
    If you read the whole article, you would see that yes, they reworded some parts, but it appears that may all just be a ruse.

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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Just another pathetic example of our current liberal administration thinking they know what best for our citizens and being determined to implement their agenda by force of government.

    GET THE HELL OUT OF MY LIFE!!!

    In 1970 Richard Nixon was president, he was considered by many to be a conservative republican.

    "The agricultural hazardous occupations orders under the Fair Labor Standards Act that bar young workers from certain tasks have not been updated since they were promulgated in 1970."
    WHD News Release: US Labor Department proposes updates to child labor regulations [08/31/2011]

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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    Why don't ordinary child labor laws apply. Why do we need these laws?
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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    "The new regulations, first proposed August 31 by Labor Secretary Hilda Solis, would also revoke the government’s approval of safety training and certification taught by independent groups like 4-H and FFA, replacing them instead with a 90-hour federal government training course.
    Wonder how much the government thinks it's going to bring in charging for some special OSHA training, and how many 4-H and FFA chapters it's going to close due to such intervention.
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