This will not teach your kids a work ethic.
I do think the attempt to stir the pot with a false charge of denying farm kids their chores is more a cover for keeping immigrant children in the field. Course if some 'conservatives' get their way, immigrant children will be banned from attending public schools so what else can they do but pick produce with the parents. :roll:
Wow. Talk about a load of BS. What are your thoughts about the government taking over safety training, not allow 4-H and FFA to do it?
Depends .... Depends ..... Most likely.....
Farming, and more to the point agribusiness are some of the most deadly civilian jobs out there. Last I checked always in the top 5 most dangerous. The machinery we use causes around 1/3 the deaths.
I find nothing about this in the document the source article provided. Considering the article was flat out dishonest in other areas, without some confirmation I am doubtfull that is the full story or the true story.
"The new regulations, first proposed August 31 by Labor Secretary Hilda Solis, would also revoke the government’s approval of safety training and certification taught by independent groups like 4-H and FFA, replacing them instead with a 90-hour federal government training course."
"“In the last three years that division has grown 30 to 40 percent,” Boswell said. Some Farm Bureau members, she added, have had inspectors on their land checking on conditions for migrant workers, only to be cited for allowing their own children to perform chores that the Labor Department didn’t think were age-appropriate."
The real interesting thing, is they say it's open for comment, but where is the actual proposal to review to comment on? There is an press announcement...
Those are from ther article, which has not shown itself to be accurate, not from the source the article cites. Going to the webstire of 4-H and FFA, all I can find is that they have testified in front of congress on the topic. Without some kind of indiependent source backing the claim, I am putting it down as unproven and probably either another lie, or not the whole story on the subject.
Child Labor Laws | Farming | Department of Labor | The Daily Caller
More invasion into the private lives of families, in a manner that is more harmful than helpful.
"The new regulations, first proposed August 31 by Labor Secretary Hilda Solis, would also revoke the government’s approval of safety training and certification taught by independent groups like 4-H and FFA, replacing them instead with a 90-hour federal government training course."
"“In the last three years that division has grown 30 to 40 percent,” Boswell said. Some Farm Bureau members, she added, have had inspectors on their land checking on conditions for migrant workers, only to be cited for allowing their own children to perform chores that the Labor Department didn’t think were age-appropriate."
The real interesting thing, is they say it's open for comment, but where is the actual proposal to review to comment on? There is an press announcement...
Ah, paranoid rants? Yes, I see, from a supporter of 'government knows best'. Go figure.
Hard to know when the mainstream media does not report some things. Have you managed to find the actual proposal so that even the press release can be vetted as accurate or not?
I have not, neither have you, nor apparently has the person who wrote the article. Two of us have not lied yet on this issue, the guy who wrote the article, he did.
What proof do you have? Considering you said you have not read the full proposal, it would be interesting to know how you *know* he lied.
Funny you call keeping immigrant children in the fields BS but not the OP rabble rousing, kids can't do chores no more isn't???? Spare me... :roll:
Depends on what the safety course is for. Depends on if the courses can be given by FFA/4H once they certify to be instructors as well. FFA gives hunter safety but only those instructors who have certified can sign off on a minor's certificate to get a hunting license in Oklahoma. There is no magic phone booth from which gubment officials pop out on demand. Most likely the same folks giving the safety courses now will do so once they certify.
Take a deep breath and chillax.
Farming, and more to the point agribusiness are some of the most deadly civilian jobs out there. Last I checked always in the top 5 most dangerous. The machinery we use causes around 1/3 the deaths. I am not saying a new safety course will help, am saying b*tchin about it is silly.
Yes, I suppose we should all be quiet. Discussion can't be productive, and besides, it will all work out without any input from we, the people. :roll:
Only the all to quick to trot out their favorite stalking horse, or think because they are 'we the people' they somehow have a clue about the subject at hand. It was easy enough to see some were just posting to b*tch about a false issue because someone called it 'Big Government' interference with the noble toilers of the land, (place hand to heart, gentlemen will remove their hats!)
Envoking 'we the people' doesn't make up for being ill-informed. Hell's Bells, farming is one of THE most Big Government interference sectors out there, and the big time farmers are getting rich from it. Getting 'Big Government' out of agriculture would be the ruin of many 'corporate' family farms, and open we the people up to some pretty hefty costs for food you DON'T want to see....
Maybe on AM Talk Radio ranting on and on about false 'facts' and stirring the people works, I do have better hopes for here...
Child Labor Laws | Farming | Department of Labor | The Daily Caller
More invasion into the private lives of families, in a manner that is more harmful than helpful.
Wonder how much the government thinks it's going to bring in charging for some special OSHA training, and how many 4-H and FFA chapters it's going to close due to such intervention.
Dude, go back and read the headline alone of the story. It is not true based on the evidence the article itself cited.
Under heavy pressure from farm groups, the Obama administration said Thursday it would drop an unpopular plan to prevent children from doing hazardous work on farms owned by anyone other than their parents.
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The surprise move comes just two months after the Labor Department modified the rule in a bid to satisfy opponents. The agency made it clear it would exempt children who worked on farms owned or operated by their parents, even if the ownership was part of a complex partnership or corporate agreement.
That didn't appease farm groups that complained it would upset traditions in which many children work on farms owned by uncles, grandparents and other relatives to reduce costs and learn how a farm operates. The Labor Department said Thursday it was responding to thousands of comments that expressed concern about the impact of the changes on small family-owned farms.