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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Your kids can still work the family farm. This does not affect that. Kids can still get jobs in agriculture, this does not change that. That is why you should read instead of making paranoid rants.
    I agree with you...I almost went on a rant about how ridiculous it is to restrict kids from working on a farm...until I read the entire thing...

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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    So: aren't current child-labor laws efficient?
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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    So: aren't current child-labor laws efficient?
    Shrug, maybe, but then I think current child-labor laws are harmful to children. While I don't support slave like labor for children, it does them no harm to do things like pick berries or harvest local crops to earn spending money. It teaches them to associate work with earning money, also since they have to decide what they spend money on, it teaches them to be responsible with their money.

    I got my first "real" job at 13, after that, I had to buy my own school clothes, my own shoes. When I got old enough, if I wanted a car, I had to buy it and pay the insurance and buy my own gas. While I have, on a few occasions had some finicial difficulties (usually due to banking problems), I still do not have a credit card, have only rarely used credit other than cars and or a house. My house and my car are the only things I currently have credit for, and hopefully, if I can get this vehicle to last awhile, I am going to get out of the credit business for cars. My younger brother is the same. Now compare us to the average credit debt that is part of what is destroying the American economy now and when they got their first jobs and when the first started to take some finicial responsiblity for themselves.

    Current Labor laws actually prevent many teens from getting jobs. Here in Texas and in Oklahoma, you have to be 16 now to get a job (if I remember it right, that is) but people I have known from New York and some other states said their state wouldn't even let you work at McDonalds until your 18.

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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Current Labor laws actually prevent many teens from getting jobs. Here in Texas and in Oklahoma, you have to be 16 now to get a job (if I remember it right, that is) but people I have known from New York and some other states said their state wouldn't even let you work at McDonalds until your 18.
    Which is all, in my opinion, absolutely ridiculous.
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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    Quote Originally Posted by pat the bunny View Post
    so, this regulation would have zero impact on most farm kids, who are unpaid labor. right? (smile)

    agricultural work, i think, is one of the most dangerous professions. my uncle was crushed when a tractor rolled on him, and was paralyzed for close to 20 years before he died. i am not sure the average kid should be using a tractor as part of his/her work responsibilities.
    Not sure how you define "average," but for country kids, especially boys, driving a tractor is "average," depending on the age. So's helping deliver calves and etc.

    I surely didn't pay my kids for doing chores. Nobody ever paid me, not as a kid or as a mom.

    But country kids can make money (not talking about FFA projects that can pay for college). Some crops have to be picked by hand, tomatoes, for example. Kids can make terrific kid-money on a Saturday morning.

    And there are also usually older neighbors, often widow ladies who need their backyards mowed--their backyards being 3-4 acres and all sorts of small repairs. Kids who learn how to fix fences make major money.

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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    This will not teach your kids a work ethic.

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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    Quote Originally Posted by Darroll View Post
    This will not teach your kids a work ethic.
    I'm guessing that you're trying to be ironic here?

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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    One more time-
    FARM WORK is exempt from almost all wage earner 'city work' laws. Wouldn't have it any other way. But there is a difference between my daughter doing her chores and kids working in a feedlot, wheat elevator, plowing fields til way past midnite.

    I do think the attempt to stir the pot with a false charge of denying farm kids their chores is more a cover for keeping immigrant children in the field. Course if some 'conservatives' get their way, immigrant children will be banned from attending public schools so what else can they do but pick produce with the parents.

    Here in the wheat belt almost all farm kids have chores in regards to farming/ranching. Some of them can work cattle on a horse better than grown men. But always under the watchful eye of their dad. Some do plow ground, but not on the old arm breaker/widow maker tractors, and most often not late at night.

    My daughter loved the livestock side of it all, hated the tractor, loved driving the work truck behind me as I moved the tractor from field to field. She loved wheat harvest, she liked teasing the 'wheaties' who worked the harvests. I didn't...

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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I do think the attempt to stir the pot with a false charge of denying farm kids their chores is more a cover for keeping immigrant children in the field. Course if some 'conservatives' get their way, immigrant children will be banned from attending public schools so what else can they do but pick produce with the parents.
    Wow. Talk about a load of BS. What are your thoughts about the government taking over safety training, not allow 4-H and FFA to do it?
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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    Funny you call keeping immigrant children in the fields BS but not the OP rabble rousing, kids can't do chores no more isn't???? Spare me...

    Depends on what the safety course is for. Depends on if the courses can be given by FFA/4H once they certify to be instructors as well. FFA gives hunter safety but only those instructors who have certified can sign off on a minor's certificate to get a hunting license in Oklahoma. There is no magic phone booth from which gubment officials pop out on demand. Most likely the same folks giving the safety courses now will do so once they certify.

    Take a deep breath and chillax.

    Farming, and more to the point agribusiness are some of the most deadly civilian jobs out there. Last I checked always in the top 5 most dangerous. The machinery we use causes around 1/3 the deaths. I am not saying a new safety course will help, am saying b*tchin about it is silly.

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