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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    as a former farm girl, I consider this ridiculous. on the other hand, i wonder if this law is designed to address issues in farm communities where there are likely temptations from both farmers and families to use the children of migrant families as hired labor? that's a little different. i think 14-year-old kids should be in school during the school year, not working 8-10 hours a day picking apples.

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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    Well, good thing the Daily Caller is not above lying in it's headline. The rule does not, in any way, ban farm chores. It does not do that. It actually updates regulations for children employed in agriculture to make them closer to those in other lines of work.

    WHD News Release: US Labor Department proposes updates to child labor regulations [08/31/2011]

    The proposal would strengthen current child labor regulations prohibiting agricultural work with animals and in pesticide handling, timber operations, manure pits and storage bins. It would prohibit farmworkers under age 16 from participating in the cultivation, harvesting and curing of tobacco. And it would prohibit youth in both agricultural and nonagricultural employment from using electronic, including communication, devices while operating power-driven equipment.


    The department also is proposing to create a new nonagricultural hazardous occupations order that would prevent children under 18 from being employed in the storing, marketing and transporting of farm product raw materials. Prohibited places of employment would include country grain elevators, grain bins, silos, feed lots, stockyards, livestock exchanges and livestock auctions.


    Additionally, the proposal would prohibit farmworkers under 16 from operating almost all power-driven equipment. A similar prohibition has existed as part of the nonagricultural child labor provisions for more than 50 years. A limited exemption would permit some student learners to operate certain farm implements and tractors, when equipped with proper rollover protection structures and seat belts, under specified conditions.
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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    so, this regulation would have zero impact on most farm kids, who are unpaid labor. right? (smile)

    agricultural work, i think, is one of the most dangerous professions. my uncle was crushed when a tractor rolled on him, and was paralyzed for close to 20 years before he died. i am not sure the average kid should be using a tractor as part of his/her work responsibilities.
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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    Farm work or more precisely agribusiness is exempt from many pay check type rules. Minimum wage is a good example.

    All the outrage over a child doing chores on the family farm is silly. Kids can do chores on the farm, pure and simple. What they couldn't do is work as part of agribusiness, whole different critter.

    No way, no how, what are you crazy? Can any government agency enforce a no family member doing chores on the family farm. Hell the USDA can't inspect our food worth a flip, what makes you 'conservatives' think they can check on lil Billy at the crack of dawn to see if he is feeding the pigs or chickens? Sheeeet, I have NEVER had a gubment agent on my land I didn't spend a week or two TRYING to get out to see me.

    Get a grip people...

    BTW, I owe a small ranch, I know these things. City folk ought to stick to b*tchin about city stuff, crap like the EPA crackdown on herbicides on suburban lawns...

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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    Quote Originally Posted by pat the bunny View Post
    so, this regulation would have zero impact on most farm kids, who are unpaid labor. right? (smile)

    agricultural work, i think, is one of the most dangerous professions. my uncle was crushed when a tractor rolled on him, and was paralyzed for close to 20 years before he died. i am not sure the average kid should be using a tractor as part of his/her work responsibilities.
    I know tractors are dangerous, but when I first learned to drive a car, I wondered why it did not
    have a left and right break.

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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

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    Just another pathetic example of our current liberal administration thinking they know what best for our citizens and being determined to implement their agenda by force of government.

    GET THE HELL OUT OF MY LIFE!!!

    You know what the problem is with laws like this is, once they're on the books, there's no going aback because they'll stay on the books.

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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Well, good thing the Daily Caller is not above lying in it's headline. The rule does not, in any way, ban farm chores. It does not do that. It actually updates regulations for children employed in agriculture to make them closer to those in other lines of work.
    Mmm.. how many times will people post the same link? That makes the 3rd time eh?

    To those from the city, chores and farm work, for a farm kid, are different things, and it is farm work that they mostly do, to help out the family and learn. It is part of the farming business, thus business regulations would apply.

    But of course, the government has NEVER overstepped it's bounds on any given regulation, and has never lied to us, eh?
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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Mmm.. how many times will people post the same link? That makes the 3rd time eh?

    To those from the city, chores and farm work, for a farm kid, are different things, and it is farm work that they mostly do, to help out the family and learn. It is part of the farming business, thus business regulations would apply.

    But of course, the government has NEVER overstepped it's bounds on any given regulation, and has never lied to us, eh?
    Your kids can still work the family farm. This does not affect that. Kids can still get jobs in agriculture, this does not change that. That is why you should read instead of making paranoid rants.
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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Your kids can still work the family farm. This does not affect that. Kids can still get jobs in agriculture, this does not change that. That is why you should read instead of making paranoid rants.
    Ah, paranoid rants? Yes, I see, from a supporter of 'government knows best'. Go figure.
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    Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores

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    Child Labor Laws | Farming | Department of Labor | The Daily Caller



    More invasion into the private lives of families, in a manner that is more harmful than helpful.
    God forbid we actually teach children discipline, self-reliance, money management or a work ethic. How utterly shameful of those rural bastards to teach their children something that would actually be useful to them throughout their lives, why, if they learn these traits, they will never become useful wards of a Liberal socialist state and might actually vote against Liberals. Terrible, I tell you, just terrible to indoctrinate children this way.

    Doh, I mentioned God, guess that would invalidate my arguments in the eyes of Liberals.

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