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Infected PCs may lose Internet in July

It's called being responsible. I know you don't understand what that means.

Do you use a Motorola based computer with pre-2003 encryption software and have your files encrypted? Or are you "irresponsible" and deserve to lose all your files?
 
Let the government scan my computer?No thanks.

They actually don't "scan your computer".

They simply detect where you get your DNS lookup info from. This is information that is available to every website that you've ever visited.

But...if you are truly reluctant, you can manually check your system. See instructions here: Detect | DCWG
 
I've known about this issue for a long time and, even though I take extensive precautions to prevent nasty things happening to my computer, I took the extra precaution of checking for any vulnerability to this virus.

My computer is clean.

I commend the OP for making this issue known to the rest of our members. I urge all members to ensure their computers are uninfected. I also urge all members to make their family, friends and others aware of this issue.

One big problem with viruses and such is that the ignorant can, through their lack of knowledge and failure to protect themselves, make the rest of us more vulnerable. Let's do all we can to protect us all.
 
Informing, yes. Holding their hands so they don't have to take any responsibility whatsoever, no. Besides, this is stuff that they should have been doing all along and it's virtually impossible, if you're online at all, that you don't know that running an anti-virus is necessary.

I agree with the first part of your statement. However, the second part is technically inaccurate, running an anti-viurs is only necessary if you are using a Windows based system. If you are running Apples Mac OS, Linux, FreeBSD, or a dirivitave of these, then an anti-virus is not necessary as the chance of you acutually getting an effective virus is so small that anti-virus software is a waste of money and system resources. If the threat against these systems rise to level of Microsoft Windows systems, then yes, a anti-virus would be necessary.
 
I agree with the first part of your statement. However, the second part is technically inaccurate, running an anti-viurs is only necessary if you are using a Windows based system. If you are running Apples Mac OS, Linux, FreeBSD, or a dirivitave of these, then an anti-virus is not necessary as the chance of you acutually getting an effective virus is so small that anti-virus software is a waste of money and system resources. If the threat against these systems rise to level of Microsoft Windows systems, then yes, a anti-virus would be necessary.

Now that is a load of horse****.

The reason Linux and FreeBSD are not targeted by virus is simple... no one uses the damn systems other than the hackers so the money potential is extremely limited.

That is also why Windows is attacked.. money money money. With 90% of the world computing market.. then that is the place to be. That is the same reason Android was targeted first in the mobile wars.. because 55%+ of the smartphone market runs Android... that of course does not exclude iOS attacks and malware. Far from it. In Apple world it was actually Apple that was stealing from users... remember the in app purchase scandal?

As for Mac... it is the most insecure OS out there.

DailyTech - Apple's OS X is First OS to be Hacked at This Year's Pwn2Own

Apple, Oracle, Google Lead Major Vendors with Software Vulnerabilities in Q1, Security Report Says | PCWorld

Malware and virus attacks against Mac and iOS are exploding and Apple is playing catch up and screwing over its users because they have for years said that they are secure ... horse****. Why? because Mac users are generally more wealthy and ignorant, so they are easy targets. Now the only hurdle will be the hackers getting over the hump of attacking one of their own (Mac is based on unix/linux type system)... but money talks... since Android is also based on unix.

It took Apple months and only after media started to write about, to fix a java exploit that had at least infected 600k Macs... despite Sun Systems fixing the exploit in general long ago.. Apple knew the exploit was part of their system, but did nothing. And the problem is still infecting Macs on a daily basis, because Apples solutions are half hearted. It took Apple years to fix exploits (and still have not fully) in Safari, exploits that Google were busted using. Who got hammered on this news? Google of course, even though security experts had told Apple about the issue, both publicly and privately over 2 years earlier.

Apple has no security culture, both in the company but also among the users. iTunes accounts are hacked all the time and Apple does little about it and the media covers for them. And this lax on security based on idiotic marketing ploys is now going to bite Apple and its fanboys and sadly its users in the collective arse. Already security companies are reporting that at least 20% of macs are infected with malware made for windows... why is that important? Because all it takes is to rewrite the code for mac and you got yourself a serious problem. That malware should never be on Mac Pcs if they were so secure..... but it is. It dont work, but it does not exactly fill people with confidence about Mac security...

But regardless... in Denmark we have a saying in the PC business... Fejl 40.. Error 40... the error is sitting 40 cm from the computer screen.... aka the user. It does not matter if it is Windows or Linux or MacOS... it is the user that is more than often the security flaw, not the OS.. unless you are on Mac, where security updates are slow as hell.
 
Everyone that runs Windows should of learned long ago about such protection schemes, it is not like Viruses are something new and have never been in the news before. True, Media has a tendency to side with Microsoft and just say Computers get infected instead of pointing out that these viruses only affect Windows and not Apple or Linux but any responsible computer owner is aware that a virus may exist and should take precautions if they run Windows.

If you own any product and don't learn about it, you are the one being irresponsible and it is not the governments job to protect you from the negative affects of that irresponsibility.


MS is targeted by hackers because its used by leaps and bounds by more people than any other, why target apple a handful own them and use them
 
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MS is targeted by hackers because its used by leaps and bounds by more people than any other, why target apple a handful own them and use them

Actually, if MS had been targeted by real hackers instead of script kiddies and other less knowledgeable persons, it would not exist today. Linux is actually the most hacked OS, however, most or at least enough of those probing and hacking for security breaches publish the vulnerbility and many times fixes, which in turn are quickly distributed to users. Usually in less than a few days. However, there are vulnerbilities in Windows, through legacy compatibility, that have existed since Windows 95. Microsoft does not have a good record of actually fixing vulnerbilities in it's code, instead they try to control the attack vector used to exploit the vulnerbility. Many viruses repeat the same attacks over and over again against the same existing vulnerbility but use different vectors of attack. AV software is not able to actually fix an vulnerabilites either, instead, they profile the vector of attack and block that vector.

There are three primary reasons that Linux is not redily susceptible to viruses.

The first being very strict control between user level and root level, for a virus to be effective, it has to infect system files which in Linux means breaking root.

The second is the fact that very few implementations of Linux are the same. There are many ways to achieve the same thing and still be compatible. Further, what code is used by a particular machine is based upon the hardware at the time the Kernel was compiled and what version of Linux being compiled. Different users, using the exact same version of a Linux OS can have huge differences in code implementation and use because of variances in hardware.

The third being how fast any vulnerbility found is fixed.

While it is theoretically possible to write a virus for Linux, it would be very limited in it's affect because of these three factors.

Linux does not enjoy much success in the desktop market, however they are very sucessfull in the corporate server market. Very few implentations of Linux focus upon Desktop use. Linux is also free software, it is illegal to charge for a linux distribution, however, it is not illegal to charge for service support and only offer certain features to those who pay a service contract. Since you cannot charge for Linux, there is not money to pay for advertising. This coupled with MSs marketing stratagies to keep competing software out of retailers severly hurt the home PC implementation of Linux. Redhat and other comercial Linux providers either do not support desktop implementation or target their desktop versions for corporate use, not home. Despite these challenges, Linux use continues to grow annually.

Apple now suffers from many ailments that previously only belonged to MS. What is really interesting about this phenomenon in the Apple market is that all of it has only been since Apple lost the GUI lawsuit to MS. While there are not overt links between the two, certain things are clear. Apple went away from it's previous hardware vendors after the lawsuit. MS gets royalties off of any hardware capable of running MS products. Since Apple switched to Intel based processors, the same as Windows machines, MS now gets royalties off of the processor sales. Apple OS X was altered, both to accomendate the lawsuit and to implement it on Intel processors. Vulnerabilities in Apple have primarily only surfaced since those changes. Yes, OS X is partially based upon Linux/Unix archetectures. However, since Apple keeps strick control of hardware in its systems and the fact that is a single user/home desktop based system, there may not be the strict divisions between Root and User and there are not the variances in implementations found in Linux. Many of the problems we now see from Apple are mysterously very MSish, such as slow updates, failure to fix vulnerabilities, etc.
 
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I agree with the first part of your statement. However, the second part is technically inaccurate, running an anti-viurs is only necessary if you are using a Windows based system. If you are running Apples Mac OS, Linux, FreeBSD, or a dirivitave of these, then an anti-virus is not necessary as the chance of you acutually getting an effective virus is so small that anti-virus software is a waste of money and system resources. If the threat against these systems rise to level of Microsoft Windows systems, then yes, a anti-virus would be necessary.

You really have no clue, do you? Macs are very, very susceptible to viruses and, in fact, are shown to carry more Windows-based viruses than Mac-based ones. They cannot be affected by Windows-based viruses, but they can and do spread them. The only reason very few people write viruses for Mac or Linux isn't because those systems are more secure, but because hardly anyone uses them. There's no point in writing for a minuscule percentage of the computer population.

Get off your high horse.
 
You really have no clue, do you? Macs are very, very susceptible to viruses and, in fact, are shown to carry more Windows-based viruses than Mac-based ones. They cannot be affected by Windows-based viruses, but they can and do spread them. The only reason very few people write viruses for Mac or Linux isn't because those systems are more secure, but because hardly anyone uses them. There's no point in writing for a minuscule percentage of the computer population.

Get off your high horse.

Uh, who has no clue? Lets see, 90% of Fortune 500 companies use Linux servers, an estimated 80% of servers running on the Internet are Linux servers. Linux - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. If you only include individuals PCs, you would be correct, bu then again, except for Identity theifs and others seeking personal information, the real threat is to servers and corporations, not individuals, we just get caught in the crossfire.
 
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