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    Re: American Professors in Tehran for Occupy Wall Street Conference

    Quote Originally Posted by Utility Man View Post
    And don't forget, right about the time President Bush Jr was on the television calling for a war with Iran...........
    When did he do this?

    This was taking place:


    "The introduction of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at Columbia University. 9/24/07"

    Seemed pretty silly to me, "kill him and bomb his nation", but only after he finishes speaking to the kids naturally.
    You make it sound as though Bush had anything to do with this speech. It was something Columbia did entirely on its own and it was roundly, heavily criticized for it. And it did not repeat.
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    Re: American Professors in Tehran for Occupy Wall Street Conference

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    How did I "expand" anything? Mya or cpwill didn't say a word about getting any government involved; it's you who sought to make it a First Amendment issue. I responded to exactly what you said.
    Pickering v. Board of Education, 391 U.S. 563 (1968), was a case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that the teacher had a right to speak on issues of public importance without being dismissed from his position.

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    Re: American Professors in Tehran for Occupy Wall Street Conference

    One of the professors in her own words regarding the conference.

    A Wall Street Occupier in Tehran – Global Public Square - CNN.com Blogs

    There really couldn't be a better example of what it means to be a "useful idiot."
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    Re: American Professors in Tehran for Occupy Wall Street Conference

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    ....why are they in Tehran for an OWS movement meeting?
    Because Tehran (like most anti-Western autocracies) has to constantly try to convince it's people that the American government and American society are awful, and hateful, and violent, and eat their poor, etc (You laugh? It's been claimed.). So they find Useful Idiots willing to come over and receive Potemkin tours, who utilize the prestige of their position, the name of their organization, and their status to give false credence to them in their "news" broadcasts.

    it's a propaganda campaign.
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    Re: American Professors in Tehran for Occupy Wall Street Conference

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Pickering v. Board of Education, 391 U.S. 563 (1968), was a case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that the teacher had a right to speak on issues of public importance without being dismissed from his position.

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    That's not exactly what they held, and besides, the case is easily distinguished, as we're talking about changing tenure policy at the university level, and that this would include private universities as well, not just public employment.
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    Re: American Professors in Tehran for Occupy Wall Street Conference

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    That's not exactly what they held, and besides, the case is easily distinguished, as we're talking about changing tenure policy at the university level, and that this would include private universities as well, not just public employment.
    That case is righteous and could be used in this situation.
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    Re: American Professors in Tehran for Occupy Wall Street Conference

    So to represent the poor and unemployed, they take a holiday to Iran?
    So follow me into the desert
    As desperate as you are
    Where the moon is glued to a picture of heaven
    And all the little pigs have God

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    Re: American Professors in Tehran for Occupy Wall Street Conference

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    That case is righteous and could be used in this situation.
    It didn't say it wasn't still good caselaw. I said it has little to do with anything said here, and can be easily distinguished.

    Tenure is voluntarily granted; reforming it causes no Constitutional issues whatsoever.
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    Re: American Professors in Tehran for Occupy Wall Street Conference

    Is there a Wall Street in Tehran that they're occupying?


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: American Professors in Tehran for Occupy Wall Street Conference

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    It didn't say it wasn't still good caselaw. I said it has little to do with anything said here, and can be easily distinguished.

    I showed where free speech was indeed a constitutional issue. Now is your turn to provide researched analysis where it is not.

    Tenure is voluntarily granted; reforming it causes no Constitutional issues whatsoever.
    Show me the documents where tenure is cited. Also, provide the basis where violation free speech is a basis for refusing to grant tenure.

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