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    Re: American Professors in Tehran for Occupy Wall Street Conference

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Sure you are. You want to punish or deprive people for fostering an ideal.
    Not at all. If the college is fine with this, then there is no problem. However I would rather strongly suspect that this kind of connection with real fascists (in their own way) is not exactly the sort of thing that most would want their names publicly associated with.

    A way to perhaps make this question more basic. You own a small business. One of your employees shows up wearing a Confederate Flag shirt. You explain to him that this is offensive to his black co-workers, and he needs to not wear it again. He angrily denounces you for fascism, explaining that you are stripping him of his First Amendment rights. The next day he shows up wearing a jacket on which he has sewn in large letters "KILL ALL N*****S". The employee refuses to remove the jacket, and in fact insists on explaining loudly in public places how black people are more like animals than humans, and have polluted the bloodstreams of the country.

    At what point do you become a fascist and take away his first amendment rights by giving him the opportunity to seek employment elsewhere?

    An ideal, which again I do not support in practice, but, the expression of which is necessary to enjoy the freedoms we all have especially in an academic setting.
    you do not need tenure to protect your theory on heliocentrism from the Pope anymore, Connery

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    Re: American Professors in Tehran for Occupy Wall Street Conference

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Really? A university revisiting its policy on tenure violates the First Amendment?

    Not even the wildest reading of the Fourteenth Amendment would bear that out.
    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Not at all. If the college is fine with this, then there is no problem. However I would rather strongly suspect that this kind of connection with real fascists (in their own way) is not exactly the sort of thing that most would want their names publicly associated with.

    A way to perhaps make this question more basic. You own a small business. One of your employees shows up wearing a Confederate Flag shirt. You explain to him that this is offensive to his black co-workers, and he needs to not wear it again. He angrily denounces you for fascism, explaining that you are stripping him of his First Amendment rights. The next day he shows up wearing a jacket on which he has sewn in large letters "KILL ALL N*****S". The employee refuses to remove the jacket, and in fact insists on explaining loudly in public places how black people are more like animals than humans, and have polluted the bloodstreams of the country.

    At what point do you become a fascist and take away his first amendment rights by giving him the opportunity to seek employment elsewhere?



    you do not need tenure to protect your theory on heliocentrism from the Pope anymore, Connery

    Sorry guys, you want to expand the issue and I am sticking with Mya and CPwill's original idea. In other words as presented it is preposterous.

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    Re: American Professors in Tehran for Occupy Wall Street Conference

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Sorry guys, you want to expand the issue and I am sticking with Mya and CPwill's original idea. In other words as presented it is preposterous.
    How did I "expand" anything? Mya or cpwill didn't say a word about getting any government involved; it's you who sought to make it a First Amendment issue. I responded to exactly what you said.
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    Re: American Professors in Tehran for Occupy Wall Street Conference

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    cpwill is smart enough not to become a propaganda tool for an Iranian regime that murders and tortures it's citizenry, denies the holocaust, and believes that kicking off a world-war is an imperative from God.

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    Is... that what you think these people did? Somebody is thick with the vitriolic rhetoric today.
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    Re: American Professors in Tehran for Occupy Wall Street Conference

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Is... that what you think these people did?
    It is what they did. I'm sure they thought they were being some kind of cutting edge free-thinkers.

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    Re: American Professors in Tehran for Occupy Wall Street Conference

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    It is what they did. I'm sure they thought they were being some kind of cutting edge free-thinkers.
    Sure - your opinion -
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    Re: American Professors in Tehran for Occupy Wall Street Conference

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Is... that what you think these people did? Somebody is thick with the vitriolic rhetoric today.

    For some it may be "vitriolic rhetoric".

    For others is the truth. Plain and simple.

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    Re: American Professors in Tehran for Occupy Wall Street Conference

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Sure - your opinion


    that's not an opinion. opinions are assessments. that is a premise. it occurred.

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    Re: American Professors in Tehran for Occupy Wall Street Conference

    And don't forget, right about the time President Bush Jr was on the television calling for a war with Iran...........

    This was taking place:


    "The introduction of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at Columbia University. 9/24/07"

    Seemed pretty silly to me, "kill him and bomb his nation", but only after he finishes speaking to the kids naturally.

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    Re: American Professors in Tehran for Occupy Wall Street Conference

    ....why are they in Tehran for an OWS movement meeting?
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