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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    This is such a gross post. While I agree with the "it's best to assume the worst" part since that's necessary for safety, the complete disregard for a human life being taken is despicable.
    The idiot who is trespassing on another's property is the one who has no regard for his own life. If he's really so stupid as to go around just assuming he can enter someone's private property, then he should be aware of the possible consequences.
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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    This is why "castle doctrine" laws are ****ing retarded.
    No. The problem isn't "Castle Doctrine". The problem is a society that refuses to actually punish anyone for breaking the law anymore.

    You want to place some blame.... Put it on the parents who went away without properly ensuring there wasn't going to be an illegal party at their house. Put it on the cops who couldn't break the party up. Put it on the idiot who decided to break and enter into another person's property.

    Obviously this guys owns some liability since he pulled the trigger, but there were AT LEAST three steps before that where this could have been averted and wasn't.

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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    This kind of stuff is why gun control people feel the way we do. If the killer in this instance hadn't been armed, probably no one would have been hurt, but certainly no one would have been killed. We've created a culture of paranoia where we don't trust our neighbors. America is a pretty safe place. Put down the gun and try to understand the people around you instead of killing them when you get spooked.
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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Could be the party goer was coming for retribution for calling the cops.
    What kind of "retribution" do you think normally happens to people who call the cops on underage drinking parties? Usually nothing. Perhaps they can expect to get their house egged or toilet papered. Assuming that someone is going to rape you or rob you because you called the cops on an underage drinking party is stupid and paranoid.

    Could be he's coming to rape his wife, could be he's coming to steal his ****. Castle doctrine laws are our right, it's a sad unfortunate tragedy, (one that this thread started and the article abused with the stupid "another unarmed black man killed" idiocy).
    Well why the hell else would you assume that someone is "coming to rape your wife" in retribution for ruining their stupid party? If the guy had been white and clean-cut, would that possibility even cross your mind?
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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    What kind of "retribution" do you think normally happens to people who call the cops on underage drinking parties? Usually nothing. Perhaps they can expect to get their house egged or toilet papered. Assuming that someone is going to rape you or rob you because you called the cops on an underage drinking party is stupid and paranoid.

    Once someone crosses into your home, you would take that chance? You would put the life and death decision into the mercy of a criminal? I sure wouldn't.





    Well why the hell else would you assume that someone is "coming to rape your wife" in retribution for ruining their stupid party? If the guy had been white and clean-cut, would that possibility even cross your mind?

    he could be dressed as a ****ing cop for all I care, if you break into my house, I am not going to assume you are here to wash my car. as far as the "white and clean cut", what the **** does race have to do with it?
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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    This kind of stuff is why gun control people feel the way we do. If the killer in this instance hadn't been armed, probably no one would have been hurt, but certainly no one would have been killed. We've created a culture of paranoia where we don't trust our neighbors. America is a pretty safe place. Put down the gun and try to understand the people around you instead of killing them when you get spooked.
    Why the **** SHOULD I trust my neighbors? What have they ever done to earn that trust, Paschendale? Trust, like Respect is EARNED, not given, in my mind. So why would I have either for people so stupid they cannot even follow the simple rules of the condo complex we live in? What is there to make me believe that anyone who comes into my condo unanounced and uninvited is NOT there to do me harm or to steal from me?

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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    If the guy had been white and clean-cut, would that possibility even cross your mind?
    Welcome to Racism 101.
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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    This kind of stuff is why gun control people feel the way we do. If the killer in this instance hadn't been armed, probably no one would have been hurt, but certainly no one would have been killed. We've created a culture of paranoia where we don't trust our neighbors. America is a pretty safe place. Put down the gun and try to understand the people around you instead of killing them when you get spooked.
    To the bolded:
    We rank 3rd in the world, behind Russia and South Africa, in regard to murder rates per 1000 people. That's not really too comforting to know.
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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    So we have someone whose underage and drinking, ignoring attempts for FOURTY FIVE MINUTES of cops trying to get into the location they're at, then proceeds to flee when the owner of the location arrives, and in fleeing decides to trespass onto another person's property and actually entering into an enclosed area on said property, an action his own parents state was likely to elude cops because he had already been ticketed before for underage drinking, ends up getting shot, the cops find no reason to suspect any wrong doing on the part of the home owner.....


    naturally this means we need a thorough additional investigation done on the culpability of the home owner. Because as we know, those you use guns are evil and they're extra evil and criminal if the person they have to use the gun against happens to be black.


    Is it a ****ty situation? Yes. Know what else would be a ****ty situation? If rather than some kid acting dumb it had been someone thinking they were going to rob the place and was armed. ****ty situations are going to happen, regardless of the law...the difference being do you want to have ****ty situations where those who are not guilty of wrong doing get screwed, or ****ty situations where those who are guilty of wrong doing get screwed?

    Look, I'd be lying if I said I didn't drink underage. That's not something worth dying for. Getting arrest by police for it isn't worth dying for. Just going onto someone elses porch isn't worth dying for. Going to a party and ignoring cops isn't worth dying. Trying to elude cops isn't worth dying. But you know what? When you make poor decisions, and especially illegal decisions, YOU choose to risk that consequences will happen to you and when those poor decisions include going onto other peoples property at 2:00 AM then those consequences may include getting shot.

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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    So you're saying all these 432 black men that killed these other 432 black men are free men or aren't wanted?
    Probably as much as yo'ure saying all 432 of them aren't free men or aren't wanted.

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