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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    Has nothing to do with race.

    We have a culture of killers in our society, who think it's cool and manly to shoot people they are legally able to. We've had other threads where pompous assholes have claimed they would do the same (kill someone on their property, for being on their property). There should be plenty of people agreeing that the guy should have shot the kid, even though we all know he used deadly force inappropriately, snuffing out a kids life.

    I really think we should identify those types, buy up land in an area they think is public, then have snipers drop them as they put both feet over the property line. Castle doctorine, har har. ****ers.
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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    And there lies the difference between you and me. I would consider "relying on yourself" irresponsible. Shooting is a last resort to me.
    Yes, that DOES seem to be the difference between us...since I would rather rely on myself than apparently useless law enforcement. I consider THAT to be quite responsible...especially if I am in potential danger. But you go ahead and call the cops. If you live in that town, at least you can blame useless cops when you come to a bad end...you were being "responsible", after all.

    btw, I also consider shooting to be a last resort.
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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I find the suggestions that I no longer should have the right to defend myself on my property in the middle of the night when someone's skulking around on my porch to be terribly disturbing.

    Why should I assume that someone on my porch in the middle of the night after a night of police-calls and a noisy-teennybop-parties is hiding there for a peaceful encounter with no ill intent?

    The argument against this case seems ****ing stupid.
    You have the right to defend yourself and your property, but only if the intruder is white. If he's black, you have to sit back and do nothing.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Screw him. The dumbass should not have entered someone else's enclosed porch, late at night. In the dark it is hard to know what someone's intent is, and best to assume to the worst.

    Give him a Darwin award and move on.

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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Res Cogitans View Post
    Arrest that man and have him stand trial. Let the Jury decide if it is a legitimate use of self-defense.

    This is what will happen in this case, so long as Arizona is not a SYG state. If it is an SYG state, then we can just let this guy decide for himself what counts as legitimate self-defense....unless he's in Georgia, where SYG apparently only applies to certain people.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    If that's how you see it, then that's how you see it. However, I consider that viewpoint very unfortunate if it isn't qualified by "and I'll be as responsible as I can with any weapon that I own." I'm just someone who values human life even if it's on my lawn at night. I'm also someone who understands that potential threats are not always actual threats. Because of that, I'll repeat the part of my post that you completely ignored:

    If I were in that situation as has been described by the article, I would have either opened a front window/door and shouted to the police or I would have called 911 again and told them to tell the police outside of my house the situation. I would have my gun and watch the person from a place where I know they can't see me and if they tried to come into my house or if they pointed a weapon, I would shoot them. That would be the responsible thing to do and you shouldn't have a gun unless you know you can think that way in these situations.

    I believe in responsible use of weapons and I also value human life. Because of that, I would consider it irresponsible for me to leave my house and kill someone when I could have prevented the death of someone and also not put myself (or wife) in unnecessary danger simply by calling the police. I believe in shooting as a last resort not a first one. If you disagree fine, but I think that's a sad and dangerous point of view
    What's sad is that these teens and one dad didnt' have the decency to respect anyone in the neighborhood - to the point of the cops needing to be called over the noise of a party going on with underaged drinking involved while everyone else was minding their own quiet business trying to sleep for the night.

    What's sad and dangerous is that other people believe they have the right to go onto your property - on your porch - in the middle of the night - after they spent the night causing a ruckus and disturbing the entire neighborhood.

    What's sad and dangerous is that apparently some people think that someone going onto your property - on your porch - in the middle of the night after disturbing the peace abd having the cops called on you doesn't raise any sense of alarm - at all - and would best you just hide in the corner of your livingroom from things that go bump in the night.

    Sad and dangerous - The kid should have known better. Likely: he DID know better and decided he didn't give a ****. If they tried - remotely tried - to just be decent law abiding nice people none of it ever would have happened - the cops never would have been called - there wouldn't have been a party going on - and one teen wouldn't have been skulking around on a porch making himself a target of suspicion and ultimately the target of someone's protective firearm.

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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Just to report the facts, Adam Kind is white and Bo Morrision is bi-racial. Slinger is 98% white and .2% black
    2%, wow. This guy knows who all of his great great great great great great grandparents were.

    This story is probably made up.
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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Assuming there is guilt somewhere involved here?
    So you're saying all these 432 black men that killed these other 432 black men are free men or aren't wanted?
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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    I find it interesting, and telling really that so many of you conservative folk responded to my second post by assuming I was making some kind of racial jab, when I was simply saying that black on black crime results in arrest and warrants. Kind of like you all are denying you are something, before you are accused. Hmmmm...oh well.

    EDIT: What I also find interesting is not one of you commented on my thread about the black woman going to jail for something very similar that Zimmerman did and in all honesty, had more right to do what she did by far than Zimmerman did. I think you all could agree any woman of any color white, black or otherwise would have had the right.
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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Bo Morrison Shot And Killed Under Stand Your Ground Law (DETAILS) | Global Grind

    Just saw this story. Not sure what to make of it. Different circumstances, was night, guy might have seriously freaked out when he shot the guy.
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    See the mofo. Shoot the mofo and quit thinking about it.

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