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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I think the homeowner may have been a little hasty in pulling the trigger, however I wasn't there and quite possibly would have done the same thing given similar circumstances. If it's my family's safety or that of an unknown it will be my family, end of story.
    Yes I am pretty much where you are with it. I do feel indifferent about it either way. You got to see it from dudes point of view, even if nothing legal comes of it, his life is probably going to be hell one way or another for awhile, unless he moves or something.
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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Yes I am pretty much where you are with it. I do feel indifferent about it either way. You got to see it from dudes point of view, even if nothing legal comes of it, his life is probably going to be hell one way or another for awhile, unless he moves or something.
    He did make a quick decision, but I think that a person's decision making powers are affected by fear and that probably played a major role. I can't imagine how many times he has probably questioned his own decision. As it turned out, he probably did not have to fear Bo, but the situation created that need.

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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    He did make a quick decision, but I think that a person's decision making powers are affected by fear and that probably played a major role. I can't imagine how many times he has probably questioned his own decision. As it turned out, he probably did not have to fear Bo, but the situation created that need.
    I understand but still. I get off of work at midnight so I spend my time watching shows on Hulu and Internet. Sometimes I hear noises outside and stuff out back gets moved around. One instance I went outside, with the the lights off because I can actually see better and a rifle. Everytime I crouch down behind my truck and yell who goes there. One time it was actually someone and they ran off. Another time it was 3 coyotes. I shot and killed one and scared the hell out of the other ones.
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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    This is missing a whole lot of other instances. Since the February 26 shooting of Trayvon Martin, 432 black men have been killed. By black men.
    What's the point of this post? I am guessing you just made up that statistic, but I really don't understand the point you're trying to make.

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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Obviously they get arrested. Only the white ones get let go.


    Anyway, the case appears to be Castle Doctrine, not SYG. Castle Doctrine exists in almost every state? That noted, shooting someone for hiding on one's porch is kinda messed up, but it's better than home-dwellers having to think twice about defending themselves in their homes.
    I know. It doesn't even seem like there was self defense. He was just on somebody's property and killed for that. I am starting to think that some armed people are just making rash decisions, appear to be paranoid or just think the worst of other people, which is a really bad combination. Shooting somebody often ends a life, and it seems like some people are not thinking much about it.

    The shooter has to live the rest of his life out knowing he killed somebody, and I don't think that that can weight lightly on his conscious.

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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I find the suggestions that I no longer should have the right to defend myself on my property in the middle of the night when someone's skulking around on my porch to be terribly disturbing.

    Why should I assume that someone on my porch in the middle of the night after a night of police-calls and a noisy-teennybop-parties is hiding there for a peaceful encounter with no ill intent?

    The argument against this case seems ****ing stupid.
    I can believe he was concerned, but I doubt he was in fear of his life. This doesn't concern self defense, but simple trespassing.

    I know years ago it was common that trespassing warranted the property owner to shot and kill on the spot. I didn't think we were still living with that kind of mentality today.

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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    Can we agree the OP source in this thread is a bit biased? Try this source which takes information directly from the police report.

    No charges filed against homeowner accused of shooting Bo Morrison | FOX6Now.com

    When this incident happened people claimed it was a race thing. It was dark, Bo was wearing dark clothes, he was somewhere he has absolutely no right to be. The "Porch" everyone is so concerned about has to be entered via 2 exterior doors.

    Just yesterday I noticed that in the 6 months since Wisconsin passed concealed carry the state has issued 100,000 permits. Guns are a big deal here. So is the right to protect yourself and your home. If someone enters my home at 2am without an invitation I do not think they should have any expectation of safety.
    THis has always been my stance too!

    People always say or ask "how do you know that person is a threat" and I always say the same thing, I wont have to wonder about that question if you keep your ass on the outside of my house
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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    Can we agree the OP source in this thread is a bit biased? Try this source which takes information directly from the police report.

    No charges filed against homeowner accused of shooting Bo Morrison | FOX6Now.com

    When this incident happened people claimed it was a race thing. It was dark, Bo was wearing dark clothes, he was somewhere he has absolutely no right to be. The "Porch" everyone is so concerned about has to be entered via 2 exterior doors.

    Just yesterday I noticed that in the 6 months since Wisconsin passed concealed carry the state has issued 100,000 permits. Guns are a big deal here. So is the right to protect yourself and your home. If someone enters my home at 2am without an invitation I do not think they should have any expectation of safety.
    Still doesn't convince me that what this homeowner did was right. This source raise more question than justifies his shooting.

    If this young man was running from the neighbor's garage where the party was held and into this homeowner's porch through one of the so-called "2 exterior doors" so quickly in seconds without carrying any tools for break-in, then it must not be a real secured door of any caliber.

    In addition, it was said that the porch was dark when the shooting took place. So, either the homeowner didn't flip the switch to scare the intruder away as a first warning or there was no wiring for lighting to the porch which possibly was just a later add-on to the exterior at the back of the house. Therefore, it couldn't be intended for interior living space. If it was intended as a interior living space, then it is reckless of this homeowner to have such flimsy "2 exterior doors" and nothing heavily secured in-between it and the main house, given he has a family with three small children to worry about.

    Also, according to this source, the homeowner confronted the intruder in the dark porch and questioned him. According to the report, the young man raised his hands (showing he was unarmed) and then, according to the homeowner's account, the young man took a step forward towards him and that's when he shot him. This doesn't sit well with me given that he should first told his wife to call the police before confronting the intruder and the police would be there about the same amount of time that the young man ran from the garage to the porch.

    In addition, I don't really believe the homeowner was in fear of his life when he felt the need to confront the intruder who merely crouch in hiding somewhere in the dark porch as opposed to pounding on the door like the homeowner did when he went over to his neighbor's driveway, trespassing their property and was pounding on someone's car window, another private property of another person, at the wee hour well past midnight. He wasn't concerned that he was trespassing two different people's private property at wee hour, was he? He wouldn't have known who was/were in the car or whether he/she/they was/were armed, would he? So, why wasn't he scared? Why wasn't he afraid some armed intruder attacked him and then went over to his house and attacked his family with three young children while he was outside raising hell with his neighbor's late night visitiors or just opportunitic strangers? Besides, there was report that he was threatening those party kids with his gun (not sure whether that's true or not).

    No, the fact that he was out in his neighbor's property just a few minutes ago at wee hour raising hell about their party noise with police responded at the scene thereafter and calling him about it, that his claim of self defense for fear of his life because he heard noise outside in his porch, is hard to believe.


    Yes, the young man should not have intruded on his property. But, yound people make mistales. You can't guarantee that one day your children or your grandchildren or your loved ones will never made such stupid mistake. It shouldn't be a death sentence. The homeowner, who is much mature also made such mistake that night, Why should he be holier than thou to so quickly shoot a young man to death for trespassing his property without letting the police, who he had just spoken on the phone a second ago, to take care of the situation and get away with it?

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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    What's the point of this post? I am guessing you just made up that statistic, but I really don't understand the point you're trying to make.
    The point, is that people are fomaing at the mouth about Martin, yet nothing is said about 432 other black men that have been murdered, since Martin's death.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Another Unarmed Black Man Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The point, is that people are fomaing at the mouth about Martin, yet nothing is said about 432 other black men that have been murdered, since Martin's death.
    Because a lot of people don't care simply because it involves a non white victim. I guess some people can't grasp their mind around that concept though.

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