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    Re: Deal OKs bill requiring drug testing for welfare recipients

    Quote Originally Posted by Paratrooper View Post
    Military, law enforcement, and many civilian jobs require drug test. Why shouldn't welfare recipients be required to take them?

    I don't buy the " what about the kids argument" if a welfare recipient is buying drugs they are willing taking away from what was intended to buy food, shelter, and clothing for their family.

    What has happened to personal responsibility?
    Personal responsibility died right about the same time that "innocent until proven guilty" died.

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    Re: Deal OKs bill requiring drug testing for welfare recipients

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Don't need to ignore it. There are plenty of private charities that a person can go to in order to get help feeding their children.
    Are there? What about housing?
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    Re: Deal OKs bill requiring drug testing for welfare recipients

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Personal responsibility is still around, but when discussing government actions, it's more irrational to focus on what the government can do rather than what it cannot do. It can't force people to be personally responsible so that doesn't even factor into this discussion.
    You're right, we can't force personal responsibility. But we also do not have to support personal irresponsibility.
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    Re: Deal OKs bill requiring drug testing for welfare recipients

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    Gonna be yet another giant waste of money. Nothing but a giant pointless waste of money
    i agree.

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    Re: Deal OKs bill requiring drug testing for welfare recipients

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You're right, we can't force personal responsibility. But we also do not have to support personal irresponsibility.
    At what cost?
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    Re: Deal OKs bill requiring drug testing for welfare recipients

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Are there? What about housing?
    In order to get foodstamps you have to have a place to live. If you don't then you don't get foodstamps. So your question is irrelevent. But there are homeless shelters out there that are run by non-profit charity organizations.
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    Re: Deal OKs bill requiring drug testing for welfare recipients

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    At what cost?
    Sometimes spending more money is perferable to not spending the money and allowing a problem to continue.
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    Re: Deal OKs bill requiring drug testing for welfare recipients

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    In order to get foodstamps you have to have a place to live. If you don't then you don't get foodstamps. So your question is irrelevent. But there are homeless shelters out there that are run by non-profit charity organizations.
    And will they be able to handle all of the people kicked off of government assistance?
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    Re: Deal OKs bill requiring drug testing for welfare recipients

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Sometimes spending more money is perferable to not spending the money and allowing a problem to continue.
    Spend more money they don't have? The states are broke already.
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    Re: Deal OKs bill requiring drug testing for welfare recipients

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    And will they be able to handle all of the people kicked off of government assistance?
    That's their problem. Not mine.
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