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    Re: Deal OKs bill requiring drug testing for welfare recipients

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And how much money do you get from the government? What have you obtained that was in some way subsidized through taxpayer dollars? It's pretty ridiculous I think to try to hold this to a group; particularly now in middle of an ongoing recession. This is a deflection topic, nothing more. It’s like a dog and a ball. Dog really wants the ball, but you can “throw” the ball while keeping hold of it and the dog will run off after the imaginary ball. Don’t be the dog. There are far greater issues at stake than welfare recipients doing drugs.
    Zero directly, lots indirectly, but my tax money pays for it. How much in taxes do welfare recipients pay? Oh wait, ZERO.
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    Re: Deal OKs bill requiring drug testing for welfare recipients

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Obviously I don't think that or I wouldn't have said it in the first place.



    We have laws for a reason. If you break the laws, you pay the penalty. Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?
    Those children should have taken personal responsibility for their parents, huh?
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    Re: Deal OKs bill requiring drug testing for welfare recipients

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    If you don't stay clean, and testing would find out if they did, you lose your benefits. Geez, are you that dense?
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    Re: Deal OKs bill requiring drug testing for welfare recipients

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    Those children should have taken personal responsibility for their parents, huh?
    You apparently have an English comprehension problem.
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    Re: Deal OKs bill requiring drug testing for welfare recipients

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    You apparently have an English comprehension problem.
    I don't understand what you are trying to say. Could you be more specific?
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    Re: Deal OKs bill requiring drug testing for welfare recipients

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    I don't understand what you are trying to say. Could you be more specific?
    Kids aren't responsible for their parents. Parents are responsible for their own actions or they lose their kids. How can you possibly confuse the two?
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    Re: Deal OKs bill requiring drug testing for welfare recipients

    Save money and just eliminate welfare.

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    Re: Deal OKs bill requiring drug testing for welfare recipients

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Zero directly, lots indirectly, but my tax money pays for it. How much in taxes do welfare recipients pay? Oh wait, ZERO.
    Hard to get blood from a stone, yes? But we all get tax breaks. Married people get a few, you get them for having children, for using schools, etc. Subsidizing the cost of raising one's kids through government taxation. In the end, lots of us are subsidized one way or another through the government and the taxpayer. I do not think that we should all be piss tested every time we're using "government" dollars.
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    Re: Deal OKs bill requiring drug testing for welfare recipients

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Obviously I don't think that or I wouldn't have said it in the first place.

    We have laws for a reason. If you break the laws, you pay the penalty. Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?
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    Re: Deal OKs bill requiring drug testing for welfare recipients

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Hard to get blood from a stone, yes? But we all get tax breaks. Married people get a few, you get them for having children, for using schools, etc. Subsidizing the cost of raising one's kids through government taxation. In the end, lots of us are subsidized one way or another through the government and the taxpayer. I do not think that we should all be piss tested every time we're using "government" dollars.
    Sorry, you're wrong. I pay my taxes and taxes, collectively, go to pay for many of the things I use and many, many more than I never do. The government's dollars are the taxpayer's dollars, we fund the government and everything the government does, at least we would if the government would stop living beyond it's means and borrowing from China. The government doesn't send me a check, I send it to them.

    However, welfare recipients pay nothing whatsoever, in fact, they get free money just for waking up in the morning. They do nothing to earn it, it is provided at society's discretion and we can attach any strings to it we wish. If we collectively want to require that they dress like clowns all day in order to get that check, we could do it. Society makes the rules and if society decides that we're going to require drug testing to continue getting that government check, then that's the way it is. Welfare recipients can either submit to the will of society or they can stop sticking their hand out.
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