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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers £10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Dayum,
    What a nasty turn of events. I had to wipe the rabid spittle off the screen from some of those posts.

    It is amazing to me how some who ranted against CNN and MSNBC for the Zimmerman tapes and belittle any 'leftie' who thought the first report was true.

    But when a 'news' report, some 'conservatives' want to be true, surfaces it is jumped on like Gospel. All the pompass posturing quickly forgotten.

    It seems there is little if any supporting evidence Lord Ahmed put a bounty out on anyone. It seems the traffic accident didn't involve texting and the other driver was a drunk and had crashed his car right infront of Ahmed at night.

    it seems this thread has turned into a rather idiotic string of chest puffing and thumping to cover the fact some 'quick to judge' 'conservatives' are just as bad as those they decry...

    sad really...

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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers £10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Just been listening to Lord Ahmed on News 24. He said he never had an interview with that paper and there were plenty of other papers there and none of them suggested he said the OP. Further he said there is a tape of what he said so tough luck he can show he did not say this. He is quite gobsmacked at the way people have chosen to believe this without checking it was correct first.
    Well, then let's see the tape.

    By the way, it's not MEMRI which is the source of this. It's a "centre-left" Pakistani paper.

    It still baffles me that so many simply refuse to believe he could have said it. I'll be watching for this kind of skepticism in the future, when the subject of the piece is not so sympathetic to you guys. (And why he is, I still don't quite get.)
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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers £10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So you are not bound by things like the NATO treaty or UN Charter but demand that the rest of us are? A tad arrogant no?
    I've noticed you Europeans are a tad selective when it comes to things like the NATO treaty. You tend to support it when it suits your national interests.

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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers £10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Dayum,
    What a nasty turn of events. I had to wipe the rabid spittle off the screen from some of those posts.

    It is amazing to me how some who ranted against CNN and MSNBC for the Zimmerman tapes and belittle any 'leftie' who thought the first report was true.

    But when a 'news' report, some 'conservatives' want to be true, surfaces it is jumped on like Gospel. All the pompass posturing quickly forgotten.

    It seems there is little if any supporting evidence Lord Ahmed put a bounty out on anyone. It seems the traffic accident didn't involve texting and the other driver was a drunk and had crashed his car right infront of Ahmed at night.

    it seems this thread has turned into a rather idiotic string of chest puffing and thumping to cover the fact some 'quick to judge' 'conservatives' are just as bad as those they decry...

    sad really...
    Jt as amazing are the number of Islamic extremist apologists who just naturally assume that this couldn't possibly be true. Of course, the other possible explanation is that they agree with bounties being placed on the heads of american Presidents. In fact, we've had at least one of these posters state exactly that.

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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers £10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Well, then let's see the tape.

    By the way, it's not MEMRI which is the source of this. It's a "centre-left" Pakistani paper.

    It still baffles me that so many simply refuse to believe he could have said it. I'll be watching for this kind of skepticism in the future, when the subject of the piece is not so sympathetic to you guys. (And why he is, I still don't quite get.)
    Sories like this always tend to draw out the Far Left - especially the European type - who see it as just another opportunity to bash the United States. That they have to ally themselves with Muslim extremists doesn't bother them in the slightest.

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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers £10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Wiggen-
    Perhaps it is even more amazing that when someone disagrees with certain radical right wing rantings, those someones who dared voice an objection get hammered with the usual slurs and knee jerk attacks that certainly don't help any dis-CUSS-ion.

    I suppose a certain amount of penis waving is bound to happen, but most the attacks leveled against those who wonder just how true a report of bounty issuing can be are ignorant. It isn't as if this Lord Ahmed has a long history of anti-American attacks. It isn't as if a slew of papers/reporters/ bloggers were witness to this. no tape, no vid, no nuttin

    For all some on the radical right puff and posture over Zimmerman THIS 'report' would have been a most excellent chance to show some walking the walk instead of shrill attacks on other countries because a few 'furiners' see our actions overseas as possible war crimes, especially when compared to who all we drug into the Hague.

    As far as the NATO and when they 'choose' to help, I recall them wanting to help after 9-11 and a haughty Rumsfeld declared their help would be a hindrance, what with wanting to obey the rules of war and all.

    But that goes against the right wing rant of USA uber alles.

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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers £10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    No Bush is a war criminal for launching a war of aggression. Gitmo is certainly against U.S law though (and even the lowest standards of human decency)
    You prove my point. YOU believe he is a war criminal (so do a LOT of mindless morons out there). Many would say that Clinton was a war criminal for going to war against the Serbs. Obama qualifies because he authorized military force against Libya. Its all relative.

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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers £10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You prove my point. YOU believe he is a war criminal (so do a LOT of mindless morons out there). Many would say that Clinton was a war criminal for going to war against the Serbs. Obama qualifies because he authorized military force against Libya. Its all relative.
    The intervention is Serbia was mandated by the UN and NATO (though funding the extremist groups that broke the country up was certainly wrong), and was Libya, but if it makes you any happier critics of Obama may well have a point legally regarding drone attacks. Not to mention that Clinton's attack on Sudan was certainly illegal.
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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers £10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    The intervention is Serbia was mandated by the UN and NATO (though funding the extremist groups that broke the country up was certainly wrong), and was Libya, but if it makes you any happier critics of Obama may well have a point legally regarding drone attacks. Not to mention that Clinton's attack on Sudan was certainly illegal.
    Perspective. It is illegal 'to you'. WHich means it is illegal to no one of relevance

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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers £10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Perspective. It is illegal 'to you'. WHich means it is illegal to no one of relevance
    No its illegal according to the UN charter and the Nuremberg conventions

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