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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers £10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    A member of the House of Lords puts up a bounty for the capture of one former and one sitting US President:
    I'd like to see the pakis try. Seriously, third world savages vs Secret Service, CIA, the FBI, the Military, and every local law enforcement agent in the continental US in post 9/11 America after making the threat. That'll be some damn good slapstick.
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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers £10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Of course it is, so why do so many of you extreme left British posters defend it at every turn?
    Is this a multiple choice question?

    Because it's anti-Chritian. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

    Because tolerance is good, even if it leads to one's demise.

    Because we keep our eyes closed, plug our ears, sing na-na-na-na-na, and wait for it to go away.
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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers £10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    You're attacking them as a source, insinuating they may be lying. Why? What reason do you have to think they would, especially now that you know more about them?

    Why is it that you want to disbelieve he said this? At this point, it's pretty obvious that you do.
    I don't want to believe or disbelieve it, I just don't automatically assume that because a newspaper reports it it must be true. Time and investigation will prove the matter one way or the other. I'm not attacking them as a source, I'm simply saying that neither you nor I know whether this is a reputable paper or whether it has some agenda in making the claims it made in its report. i've never heard of it before. Have you?

    If Lord Ahmed made the statements quoted by the newspaper at a public event or even a behind-closed-doors internal event, there is bound to be some phyical record of that speech. I'm sure the investigation will turn up that evidence if it exists. Do you have some reason for believing the journalist over the politician? I don't. Neither profession is exactly the last word in reliability. Why rush to judgement when the facts aren't yet known?
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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers £10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    and in a related development, the foxes have been put in charge of investigating a series of missing chickens......
    Would that be the same Labour Party that took the UK into the Afghan and Iraq wars as the stalwart ally of President GW Bush? The same one that brought in the internment of Islamists suspects without trial?
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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers £10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    No Government is going to try to arrest George Bush. I remember when people started having these fantasies in the 2004 time frame. I had to spend about 10 pages convincing some German that his nation would not survive the resulting war.
    You make a good point there because there are many people who believe the Iraq war in particular was illegal, including the British governments lawyers and the UN. You can listen to what actually happened on my link. He does appear to be talking of raising money to bring Bush and Blair to the ICC. Interestingly when I landed on a Pakistani site they were not even discussing this, they were discussing the emphasis of his talk which was evolution not revolution. They thought he sounded a bit too English and preferred revolution.

    You also need to understand how badly the war against Afghanistan has harmed Pakistan, the number they have dead and the infiltration of extremists into Pakistan and the social consequences of that. I imagine that that will make no difference to some here but imagine if you were living there. Might you not think justice should be the same for all? I'd be extremely surprised if this speech came from an intent to inflame. I suspect it was quite the opposite, though I can understand it might not be seen as that from people here.

    Anyway, nothing to do with Obama, it is just Bush and Blair.

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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers £10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    The last thing I need is somebody named Red Dave from Ankara, Turkey telling me about the U.S. Constitution. You don't understand the U.S. Constitution, much in the same way you only have a comic book/leftist understanding of the United States.

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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers £10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    The last thing I need is somebody named Red Dave from Ankara, Turkey telling me about the U.S. Constitution. You don't understand the U.S. Constitution, much in the same way you only have a comic book/leftist understanding of the United States.
    Clearly i do, as i understand that article 6, paragraph two states that any treaty the U.S signs becomes part of U.S law. Or am i mistaken?

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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers £10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    You make a good point there because there are many people who believe the Iraq war in particular was illegal, including the British governments lawyers and the UN. You can listen to what actually happened on my link. He does appear to be talking of raising money to bring Bush and Blair to the ICC. Interestingly when I landed on a Pakistani site they were not even discussing this, they were discussing the emphasis of his talk which was evolution not revolution. They thought he sounded a bit too English and preferred revolution.

    You also need to understand how badly the war against Afghanistan has harmed Pakistan, the number they have dead and the infiltration of extremists into Pakistan and the social consequences of that. I imagine that that will make no difference to some here but imagine if you were living there. Might you not think justice should be the same for all? I'd be extremely surprised if this speech came from an intent to inflame. I suspect it was quite the opposite, though I can understand it might not be seen as that from people here.

    Anyway, nothing to do with Obama, it is just Bush and Blair.

    Suspended peer says Obama 'bounty' a 'pack of lies' - Channel 4 News
    Pakistan is a hellhole of a country that is the most dangerous place on the planet. Had they taken care of Osama bin Laden and the Taliban ten years ago instead of getting into bed with them, there would have been no need for the U.S. to go after them.

    They get no sympathy from me - they gave the man who masterminded the murder of 3000 people a sanctuary for ten years. Screw them.

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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers £10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Clearly i do, as i understand that article 6, paragraph two states that any treaty the U.S signs becomes part of U.S law. Or am i mistaken?
    Here's a tip for you. The U.S. Constitution means whatever the U.S. Supreme Court says it means. Until you Euro-Lefties take over the Supreme Court, your beliefs on this matter are meaningless.

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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers £10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    You make a good point there because there are many people who believe the Iraq war in particular was illegal, including the British governments lawyers and the UN. You can listen to what actually happened on my link. He does appear to be talking of raising money to bring Bush and Blair to the ICC. Interestingly when I landed on a Pakistani site they were not even discussing this, they were discussing the emphasis of his talk which was evolution not revolution. They thought he sounded a bit too English and preferred revolution.

    You also need to understand how badly the war against Afghanistan has harmed Pakistan, the number they have dead and the infiltration of extremists into Pakistan and the social consequences of that. I imagine that that will make no difference to some here but imagine if you were living there. Might you not think justice should be the same for all? I'd be extremely surprised if this speech came from an intent to inflame. I suspect it was quite the opposite, though I can understand it might not be seen as that from people here.

    Anyway, nothing to do with Obama, it is just Bush and Blair.

    Suspended peer says Obama 'bounty' a 'pack of lies' - Channel 4 News
    I thought you told me this was made up by the Jews in Washington, D.C. Now it turns out it's a Pakistani paper after all. Make up your mind.

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