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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers 10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Because the Islamist in question SAID he didn't?

    You are awfully ignorant if you think Islamism is a liberal ideology.

    yeah, i mean, it's not as if the legitimacy of lying to unbelievers was actual Islamic doctrine or anything....

    Oh. Wait.
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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers 10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    What do you mean "we", and why are you going to watch this particular man's back? Whom are you expecting to attack him... the BBC? Because quite frankly beyond the BBC article and this forum, I've heard absolutely nothing about this from American news media. It may have been picked up from the BBC by a few outlets, but none that I've seen.

    So who do you believe is out to get this man, and why?
    If you are at all familiar with this poster, then you will know who she considers to be 'out to get him'.

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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers 10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    If that is indeed the case, why did he spend 16 days in jail, as reported in the OP's article? That sounds rather bizarre to me.
    Well the belief was that he was being made a scapegoat of

    The court had heard how Lord Ahmed sent and received a series of five text messages while driving in the dark at speeds of, and above, 60mph along a 17-mile stretch of the motorway.

    Mr Justice Wilkie made clear the texting incident had no bearing on the fatal collision.


    Sentence 'nothing'

    But he added: "It is of the greatest importance that people realise what a serious offence dangerous driving of this type is.

    "I have come to the conclusion that by reason of the prolonged, deliberate, repeated and highly dangerous driving for which you have pleaded guilty, only an immediate custodial sentence can be justified."

    -snip-

    Outside court Lord Ahmed's solicitor, Steve Smith, said he thought his client had been used as a "scapegoat" by those attempting to drive home the message about not using a mobile phone while at the wheel.
    BBC NEWS | UK | England | South Yorkshire | Peer jailed for motorway texting

    As you can see both at the original trial and at the appeal it is acknowledged that he had not been responsible for the accident. It may be that this happened just shortly after texting was made illegal and may therefore be that he was indeed being made a scapegoat - such things do happen.
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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers 10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    well.... if by liberal you mean leftist...
    Those on the Far Left have a real affinity for radical Islam, because it is rabidly anti-American and rabidly anti-Israel - sentiments that form the core of the Far Left view of the world.
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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers 10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Well the belief was that he was being made a scapegoat of



    BBC NEWS | UK | England | South Yorkshire | Peer jailed for motorway texting

    As you can see both at the original trial and at the appeal it is acknowledged that he had not been responsible for the accident. It may be that this happened just shortly after texting was made illegal and may therefore be that he was indeed being made a scapegoat - such things do happen.
    Nothing in your link makes this man in any way an admirable character.

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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers 10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    yeah, i mean, it's not as if the legitimacy of lying to unbelievers was actual Islamic doctrine or anything....

    Oh. Wait.
    Be thee wise as serpents and innocent as doves......

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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers 10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Those on the Far Left have a real affinity for radical Islam, because it is rabidly anti-American and rabidly anti-Israel - sentiments that form the core of the Far Left view of the world.
    What utter bosh! Radical Islam is ultraconservative religion incarnate.
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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers 10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    If it's true then I hope the CIA or Secret Service does something about it. Such things inspire terrorists and this man should be severely punished if what was quoted is true.
    Can't help to express you're "patriot"? At least one thing is true that Bush has been accused of "war crime". Will you activate CIA and Secret Service?

    George W. Bush cancels visit to Swiss charity gala over fears he could be arrested on torture charges

    UPDATED: 15:57 EST, 6 February 2011
    Mr Bush was due to be the keynote speaker at a Jewish charity gala in Geneva on February 12.
    But pressure has been building on the Swiss government to arrest him and open a criminal investigation if he enters the country.
    Criminal complaints against Mr Bush alleging torture have been lodged in Geneva, court officials said.


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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers 10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by katsung47 View Post
    Can't help to express you're "patriot"? At least one thing is true that Bush has been accused of "war crime". Will you activate CIA and Secret Service?
    pppfft that left-wing rag again

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    Re: Britain's Lord Nazir Ahmed Offers 10 Million Bounty for Obama, Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    If it's true then I hope the CIA or Secret Service does something about it. Such things inspire terrorists and this man should be severely punished if what was quoted is true.
    The original source of the menacing quote is a Pakistani newspaper called the Express Tribune and the accuracy of the quote is being questioned. The Labour peer admitted that he spoke out against alleged war crimes committed in Iraq and Afghanistan at a reception in Pakistan and the Pakistani paper could have distorted what he actually said to fit its agenda or make sensational headlines.

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