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    Re: Judge in Zimmermann Case Discloses Ties to CNN Analyst.....

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    All of you need to remember something....a 17 yr old kid is dead...black white orange torquoise or chartruese theres a 17 yr old kid dead...
    Now im not prepared to convict zimmerman...I dont have all the information and neither does anyone else....thats what trials are for...to bring out all the facts ..im just going to ignore all the media BS and wait and see the real deal when it comes out.
    Not normally. District Attorneys make choices based on their ability to get a conviction. And Grand Juries can be called to review the evidence and make a determination. Except in this case. We have race-baiting by Jackson and Sharpton, along with race-playing and I bet political thuggery and arm twisting by the Administration.

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Just keep in mind one fact that we do KNOW....zimmerman was told to back the hell off the kid by dispatch till the police arrived and he apparently did not do that...that in itself is going to get him convicted of something even if its lesser thant 2nd degree....zimmerman made his own bed being a tard...he is NOT A COP and the kid wasnt committing a crime walking down the street...there will have to be alot more infor that we dont know to come out to have zimmerman exonerated
    "We don't need you to do that" is hardly the same as, "Back the hell off!" You are overstating your case.

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    Re: Judge in Zimmermann Case Discloses Ties to CNN Analyst.....

    zimmerman was told to back the hell off the kid by dispatch till the police arrived and he apparently did not do that
    1) Based on the 911 call he did back off. He was running trying to keep line of sight, he stops running, his breath slows down, he says "hes gone, they always get away"
    2) "Are you following him?, we don't need you to do that" coming from the dispatcher is not a lawful order(the Sanford Police Department said this themselves). It was a suggestion which as far as we know Zimmerman complied with.

    Zimmerman said Martin approached him as he was walking back to his truck and punched him in the face. There is no evidence that refutes this. There is however a witness that states Martin was on top of Zimmerman beating him.

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    Re: Judge in Zimmermann Case Discloses Ties to CNN Analyst.....

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    All of you need to remember something....a 17 yr old kid is dead...black white orange torquoise or chartruese theres a 17 yr old kid dead...
    Now im not prepared to convict zimmerman...I dont have all the information and neither does anyone else....thats what trials are for...to bring out all the facts ..im just going to ignore all the media BS and wait and see the real deal when it comes out.
    Just keep in mind one fact that we do KNOW....zimmerman was told to back the hell off the kid by dispatch till the police arrived and he apparently did not do that...that in itself is going to get him convicted of something even if its lesser thant 2nd degree....zimmerman made his own bed being a tard...he is NOT A COP and the kid wasnt committing a crime walking down the street...there will have to be alot more infor that we dont know to come out to have zimmerman exonerated
    Bold vs Red: You're not ready to convict? Sorry, don't believe you. The dispatcher did not tell Zimmerman to "back the hell off the kid" or give any other kind of order. The 911 dispatcher suggested that Zimmerman did not have to follow Martin. And as the police have already stated...Zimmerman did not have to obey the 911 dispatcher even if it HAD been an order. So no, that in itself is not going to get Zimmerman convicted of anything.
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    Re: Judge in Zimmermann Case Discloses Ties to CNN Analyst.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Paratrooper View Post
    1) Based on the 911 call he did back off. He was running trying to keep line of sight, he stops running, his breath slows down, he says "hes gone, they always get away"
    2) "Are you following him?, we don't need you to do that" coming from the dispatcher is not a lawful order(the Sanford Police Department said this themselves). It was a suggestion which as far as we know Zimmerman complied with.

    Zimmerman said Martin approached him as he was walking back to his truck and punched him in the face. There is no evidence that refutes this. There is however a witness that states Martin was on top of Zimmerman beating him.
    That. Is. Not. What. He. Said.
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    Re: Judge in Zimmermann Case Discloses Ties to CNN Analyst.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That. Is. Not. What. He. Said.
    your right, I paraphrased. I admit its been a few weeks since I listened to the call.

    I'm rereading the transcript now.

    Zimmerman:

    Yeah. You go in straight through the entrance and then you would go left. You go straight in, don’t turn and make a left.

    He’s running. [2:08]

    Zimmerman:

    OK.

    These assholes. They always get away.

    When you come to the clubhouse, you come straight in and you go left. Actually, you would go past the clubhouse. [1:39]

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    Re: Judge in Zimmermann Case Discloses Ties to CNN Analyst.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    A wonderful liberal attitude. Tell you what. You go ahead and kiss all the butts you like so that you will be liked.
    I will continue to take liberals to task for their dangerous ideas.
    Liberalism is a gutless choice. Your post is evidence of it.
    Your posts aren't based on anything drawn from reality. Your writing is belligerent and rather paranoid actually. You make the claim of "dangerous liberal ideas"; based on what? Your weekends off? Your health care coverage? Your pension? I know - social security! Oh! The very idea that if you get down and out you can receive a meal and get help with a place to live and finding a job - yeah that's dangerous . . .

    (chuckle) unbelievable
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    Re: Judge in Zimmermann Case Discloses Ties to CNN Analyst.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    First off.....I don't have a problem getting a grip, but when you can show me what evidence that is new from 3 weeks ago. Then all that ad hom shiznit you throwing might mean something.
    Where was the ad hom? Stop crying wolf, will ya?

    Why should I provide you evidence that is new from 3 weeks ago? Haven't you had enough of poisoning the potential jury pool by trying this case in cyberspace before it even comes to trial?

    Nobody here has all the facts or the forensic evidence. Only the special prosecutor and her investigative team has them all. Also, nobody here can interview witnesses and cross-examine them under oath in trial, so all your outcry to demonize the special prosecutor in favor of letting Zimmerman just walk free is just baseless.

    Like I said, let this case works its way through the justice system without you crying wolf or boohoo every single moment the case came up in court for briefing.
     

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    Re: Judge in Zimmermann Case Discloses Ties to CNN Analyst.....

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Your posts aren't based on anything drawn from reality. Your writing is belligerent and rather paranoid actually. You make the claim of "dangerous liberal ideas"; based on what? Your weekends off? Your health care coverage? Your pension? I know - social security! Oh! The very idea that if you get down and out you can receive a meal and get help with a place to live and finding a job - yeah that's dangerous . . .

    (chuckle) unbelievable
    Wow. Just wow. I agree with your final word (chuckle).

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    Re: Judge in Zimmermann Case Discloses Ties to CNN Analyst.....

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    Where was the ad hom? Stop crying wolf, will ya?

    Why should I provide you evidence that is new from 3 weeks ago? Haven't you had enough of poisoning the potential jury pool by trying this case in cyberspace before it even comes to trial?

    Nobody here has all the facts or the forensic evidence. Only the special prosecutor and her investigative team has them all. Also, nobody here can interview witnesses and cross-examine them under oath in trial, so all your outcry to demonize the special prosecutor in favor of letting Zimmerman just walk free is just baseless.

    Like I said, let this case works its way through the justice system without you crying wolf or boohoo every single moment the case came up in court for briefing.
     
    Right.....like ABC TV said, once Zimmermann had an attorney. Theres no one crying wolf. Again the average Criminal Attorney would be all over her publicly made remarks to the press, Nationwide. The Special prosecutor has to release what new evidence there is. I am not trying anything. All I care about is the guy getting a fair trial. Without influences coming from elsewheres. Nor for allowing Race to be used or some polticial gambit by Polticians trying to play with gun laws. Moreover spend some time in Chicago Courts and it is quite understandable where I am coming from. In trusting that system to work out any cogs. Although I am sure many in NY and L.A could Identify as well.

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    Re: Judge in Zimmermann Case Discloses Ties to CNN Analyst.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Right.....like ABC TV said, once Zimmermann had an attorney. Theres no one crying wolf. Again the average Criminal Attorney would be all over her publicly made remarks to the press, Nationwide. The Special prosecutor has to release what new evidence there is. I am not trying anything. All I care about is the guy getting a fair trial. Without influences coming from elsewheres. Nor for allowing Race to be used or some polticial gambit by Polticians trying to play with gun laws. Moreover spend some time in Chicago Courts and it is quite understandable where I am coming from. In trusting that system to work out any cogs. Although I am sure many in NY and L.A could Identify as well.
    The Special Prosecutor has no duty whatsoever to publicly release evidence, new or otherwise. In fact, I'm pretty sure she is ethically bound not to publicly release any evidence before trial. Her only duty is to share the evidence with the Defense Attorney in a timely manner as dictated by law, so I have no idea where you're coming from with the ludicrous statement bolded in your post.

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