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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    I've never heard of anyone being disenfranchised. Doesn't mean it hasn't happened mind you, I make no bold claims but it's definetly not an issue.

    I did notice that ppl against this have said there is no PROOF of the need for the voter ID, only reason I've heard against it is the POSSIBILITY someone COULD be discouraged from voting. Again I'm not American I don't fully understand your system (though from what I can tell, neither do many Americans) but this seems like a classic double standard.

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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    96-year-old Chattanooga resident denied voting ID | timesfreepress.com

    Yeah sure, why not make people jump through a few extra hoops by changing a policy or two, and its not like we all don't thoroughly enjoy standing in some long line at some out of the way government facility for a few hours only to have the clerk maybe say your papers are not in order.

    All because some kook is running around with a video camera almost documenting crimes while probing our democracy for weaknesses.
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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    I've never heard of anyone being disenfranchised. Doesn't mean it hasn't happened mind you, I make no bold claims but it's definetly not an issue.

    I did notice that ppl against this have said there is no PROOF of the need for the voter ID, only reason I've heard against it is the POSSIBILITY someone COULD be discouraged from voting. Again I'm not American I don't fully understand your system (though from what I can tell, neither do many Americans) but this seems like a classic double standard.
    Our voting system is actually pretty easy. For the most part you register to vote via your local courthouse and then show up on voting day to cast your ballot. If you didn't register beforehand then you can sign up right at the voting booth.

    Any variances are due mainly to different states having different rules. Some states require ID, some don't. Some require proof of residency, not sure if others don't but I'd imagine its a possibility.

    Basically the reason that there seems to be confusion for "many Americans" is because the rules to vote vary state to state. We have no uniform cross country rules/laws on voting beyond that of having to be at least 18 years old.
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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Utility Man View Post
    So what we really have here is "look how easy it is to almost commit voter fraud" and not much more, if that voters eligibility had been challenged there is no need to "pounce on him", instead that challenged voter should have simply been directed to cast a provisional ballot. Remember, just because a person cast a ballot doesn't necessarily mean that their vote is actually going to count. Do you think we should be arresting people at the polls I wonder.

    But hey if you really want to crack down on cheating, go sign up to be a poll worker/election judge so that you can challenge all of those signatures(from the opposing party).





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    Sure...were it not for the actual cases of fraud that have been caught. And cited. But I get it. Must...protect.... corruption...by....any...means...necessary....

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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Utility Man View Post
    96-year-old Chattanooga resident denied voting ID | timesfreepress.com

    Yeah sure, why not make people jump through a few extra hoops by changing a policy or two, and its not like we all don't thoroughly enjoy standing in some long line at some out of the way government facility for a few hours only to have the clerk maybe say your papers are not in order.

    All because some kook is running around with a video camera almost documenting crimes while probing our democracy for weaknesses.
    From the article...

    After Cooper was denied a photo ID Monday, Kilpatrick contacted Hamilton County's Administrator of Elections Charlotte Mullis-Morgan, who recommended that Cooper vote with an absentee ballot rather than having to stand in line with her walker again at the state center.

    Absentee ballots don't require photo ID, and the new state law was crafted to allow that exception. A U.S. Supreme Court decision upholding a similar Indiana statute cited the absentee ballot exception as one of the reasons the Indiana law didn't infringe on constitutional voting rights.
    And yet she is still not denied her right to vote....still waiting on that proof that ID laws stops people from voting....
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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    ...........having to be at least 18 years old.
    Actually to make it more confusing; here in the US, a 17 year old can sometimes vote provided that they would reach the age 18 by the time the general election rolls around, IIRC.
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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I see a lot of ACORN there. You are aware that it was ACORN that informed the police, no? Also, in all instances I am aware of, it was due to workers being lazy and not doing their jobs. None of these resulted in voter fraud.
    I am aware that THEIR agents committed the fraud...a TON of fraud. I am aware that recently several people were convicted of fraud in Indiana for forging names to place Obama on the Indiana primary ballot. Im aware there have been web sites set up in past elections for vote swapping. I think it is a shame and tragic that there are so many disgusting Pieces of **** that would do such things. Doesnt change the fact that they are there. Personally...if they kept coming up in MY house? Id be leading the charge to get their ass thrown in jail, not making excuses or saying...well...gosh...its not REALLY fraud. Yeah...it is...and yeah...dems wear their stink like nasty cologne covering 3 weeks without a shower, a pint of vodka and 2 pack a day bad habit.
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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Yeah sure, why not make people jump through a few extra hoops by changing a policy or two, and its not like we all don't thoroughly enjoy standing in some long line at some out of the way government facility for a few hours only to have the clerk maybe say your papers are not in order.

    All because some kook is running around with a video camera almost documenting crimes while probing our democracy for weaknesses.
    It causes no problems here, there is no line ups you have the appropriate ID you show it it takes a few secs In fact it often speeds things up as they dont have to ask how to spell your name to look it up it's right there on the id. As to 1 person being disenfranchised well sucks, but it think it was more an issue on how Id is given out in that state rather than the ID being used for voting. Perhaps before the law was implemented they should have made sure ID was obtainable.

    Our voting system is actually pretty easy. For the most part you register to vote via your local courthouse and then show up on voting day to cast your ballot. If you didn't register beforehand then you can sign up right at the voting booth.

    Any variances are due mainly to different states having different rules. Some states require ID, some don't. Some require proof of residency, not sure if others don't but I'd imagine its a possibility.

    Basically the reason that there seems to be confusion for "many Americans" is because the rules to vote vary state to state. We have no uniform cross country rules/laws on voting beyond that of having to be at least 18 years old.
    Varies from state to state but is pretty easy? Seems it could be made even easier I know your system doesnt work that way just having a little fun.

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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    ........And yet she is still not denied her right to vote....still waiting on that proof that ID laws stops people from voting....
    No they just suggested she ride the short bus instead, and you call that a solution. Special handling for a woman that for the most part voted all her life without a problem.
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    as I noted, its better that 10 nutjobs get guns than one good person be wrongly disarmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    How. I really don't see how this could happen. Again Sorry if I'm sounding uppity. I'm not American we require voter ID here and I see no problems with it.
    What country are you from?
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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