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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    At a quick glance, this guy

    Indiana election chief guilty of voter fraud - Associated Press - POLITICO.com

    and hey...these guys...

    Jury convicts all 8 defendants in Clay vote-buying case | State | Kentucky.com

    Recently several were also convicted in Florida and Georgia. Voter irregularities happen in Texas, New Mexico, Illinois. Vote swapping happens. Dead people are found to have voted. Illegal immigrants have been found to be voting.

    It happens. Shame that it does. It happens.
    That represents how many actual votes? The Indiana case involves one vote of a person who registered in the wrong area but got away with it because they were an official. They could have used their same powers to obtain a voter ID if that was the law. They were a Republican official.

    The Kentucky case involves people paid for their votes. Even with voter ID, the same illegal scheme could have been conducted as it was.

    You have nothing which supports any sort of voter ID.
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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Within that haystack - are there any needles? Are there any actual voter fraud convictions? Is there any actual voter fraud convictions in that haystack?
    There you go...your comments embody the stink. And yes...people are convicted of fraud. Shame so many dirty disgusting cheaters are out there. Shame so many ignore it. But really...a shame that it happens at all. You would think the political parties primarily involved would be livid.

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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

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    These guys...

    AR 1998 A contractor with ACORN-affiliated Project Vote was arrested for falsifying about 400 voter registration cards.
    CO 2005 Two ex-ACORN employees were convicted in Denver of perjury for submitting false voter registrations.
    2004 An ACORN employee admitted to forging signatures and registering three of her friends to vote 40 times.
    CT 2008 The New York Post reported that ACORN submitted a voter registration card for a 7-year-old Bridgeport girl. Another 8,000 cards from the same city will be scrutinized for possible fraud.
    FL 2009 In September, 11 ACORN workers were accused of forging voter registration applications in Miami-Dade County during the last election. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement and the state attorney’s office scoured hundreds of suspicious applications provided by ACORN and found 197 of 260 contained personal ID information that did not match any living person.
    2008 Election officials in Brevard County have given prosecutors more than 23 suspect registrations from ACORN. The state's Division of Elections is also investigating complaints in Orange and Broward Counties.
    2004 A Florida Department of Law Enforcement spokesman said ACORN was “singled out” among suspected voter registration groups for a 2004 wage initiative because it was “the common thread” in the agency’s fraud investigations.
    IN 2008 Election officials in Indiana have thrown out more than 4,000 ACORN-submitted voter registrations after finding they had identical handwriting and included the names of many deceased Indianans, and even the name of a fast food restaurant.
    MI 2008 Clerks in Detroit found a "sizeable number of duplicate and fraudulent [voter] applications" from the Michigan branch of ACORN. Those applications have been turned over to the U.S. Attorney's office for investigation.
    2004 The Detroit Free Press reported that “overzealous or unscrupulous campaign workers in several Michigan counties are under investigation for voter-registration fraud, suspected of attempting to register nonexistent people or forging applications for already-registered voters.” ACORN-affiliate Project Vote was one of two groups suspected of turning in the documents.
    MO 2008 Nearly 400 ACORN-submitted registrations in Kansas City have been rejected due to duplication or fake information.
    2007 Four ACORN employees were indicted in Kansas City for charges including identity theft and filing false registrations during the 2006 election.
    2006 Eight ACORN employees in St. Louis were indicted on federal election fraud charges. Each of the eight faces up to five years in prison for forging signatures and submitting false information.
    2003 Of 5,379 voter registration cards ACORN submitted in St. Louis, only 2,013 of those appeared to be valid. At least 1,000 are believed to be attempts to register voters illegally.
    MN 2004 During a traffic stop, police found more than 300 voter registration cards in the trunk of a former ACORN employee, who had violated a legal requirements that registration cards be submitted to the Secretary of State within 10 days of being filled out and signed.
    NC 2008 County elections officials have sent suspicious voter registration applications to the state Board of Elections. Many of the applications had similar or identical names, but with different addresses or dates of birth.
    2004 North Carolina officials investigated ACORN for submitting fake voter registration cards.
    NM 2008 Prosecutors are investigating more than 1,100 ACORN-submitted voter registration cards after a county clerk found them to be fraudulent. Many of the cards included duplicate names and slightly altered personal information.
    2005 Four ACORN employees submitted as many as 3,000 potentially fraudulent signatures on the group’s Albuquerque ballot initiative. A local sheriff added: “It’s safe to say the forgery was widespread.”
    2004 An ACORN employee registered a 13-year-old boy to vote. Citing this and other examples, New Mexico State Representative Joe Thompson stated that ACORN was “manufacturing voters” throughout New Mexico.
    NV 2009 Nevada authorities indicted ACORN on 26 counts of voter registration fraud and 13 counts of illegally compensating canvassers. ACORN provided a bonus compensation program called “Blackjack” or “21+” for any canvasser who registered more than 20 voters per shift, which is illegal under Nevada law.
    2008 Nevada state authorities raided ACORN's Las Vegas headquarters as part of a task force investigation of election fraud. Fraudulent registrations included players from the Dallas Cowboys.
    OH 2008 ACORN activists gave Ohio residents cash and cigarettes in exchange for filling out voter registration card, according to the New York Post. Some voters claim to have registered dozens of times, and one man says he signed up on 72 cards.
    2007 A man in Reynoldsburg was indicted on two felony counts of illegal voting and false registration, after being registered by ACORN to vote in two separate counties.
    2004 A grand jury indicted a Columbus ACORN worker for submitting a false signature and false voter registration form. In Franklin County, two ACORN workers submitted what the director of the board of election supervisors called “blatantly false” forms. In Cuyahoga County, ACORN and its affiliate Project Vote submitted registration cards that had the highest rate of errors for any voter registration group.
    PA 2009 Seven ACORN workers in the Pittsburgh area were indicted for submitting falsified voter registration forms. Six of the seven were also indicted for registering voters under an illegal quota system.
    2008 State election officials have thrown out 57,435 voter registrations, the majority of which were submitted by ACORN. The registrations were thrown out after officials found "clearly fraudulent" signatures, vacant lots listed as addresses, and other signs of fraud.
    2008 An ACORN employee in West Reading, PA, was sentenced to up to 23 months in prison for identity theft and tampering with records. A second ACORN worker pleaded not guilty to the same charges and is free on $10,000 bail.
    2004 Reading’s Director of Elections received calls from numerous individuals complaining that ACORN employees deliberately put inaccurate information on their voter registration forms. The Berks County director of elections said voter fraud was “absolutely out of hand,” and added: “Not only do we have unintentional duplication of voter registration but we have blatant duplicate voter registrations.” The Berks County deputy director of elections added that ACORN was under investigation by the Department of Justice.
    TX 2008 In Harris County, nearly 10,000 ACORN-submitted registrations were found to be invalid, including many with clearly fraudulent addresses or other personal information.
    2008 ACORN turned in the voter registration form of David Young, who told reporters “The signature is not my signature. It’s not even close.” His social security number and date of birth were also incorrect.
    VA 2005 In 2005, the Virginia State Board of Elections admonished Project Vote and ACORN for turning in a significant number of faulty voter registrations. An audit revealed that 83% of sampled registrations that were rejected for carrying false or questionable information were submitted by Project Vote. Many of these registrations carried social security numbers that exist for other people, listed non-existent or commercial addresses, or were for convicted felons in violation of state and federal election law.

    In a letter to ACORN, the State Board of Elections reported that 56% of the voter registration applications ACORN turned in were ineligible. Further, a full 35% were not submitted in a timely manner, as required by law. The State Board of Elections also commented on what appeared to be evidence of intentional voter fraud. "Additionally,” they wrote, “information appears to have been altered on some applications where information given by the applicant in one color ink has been scratched through and re-entered in another color ink. Any alteration of a voter registration application is a Class 5 Felony in accordance with 24.2-1009 of the Code of Virginia."
    WA 2007 Three ACORN employees pleaded guilty, and four more were charged, in the worst case of voter registration fraud in Washington state history. More than 2,000 fraudulent voter registration cards were submitted by the group during a voter registration drive.
    WI 2008 At least 33,000 ACORN-submitted registrations in Milwaukee have been called into question after it was found that the organizations had been using felons as registration workers, in violation of state election rules. Two people involved in the ongoing Wisconsin voter fraud investigation have been charged with felonies.
    2004 The district attorney’s office investigated seven voter registration applications Project Vote employees filed in the names of people who said the group never contacted them. Former Project Vote employee Robert Marquise Blakely told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that he had not met with any of the people whose voter registration applications he signed, “an apparent violation of state law,” according to the paper.
    I see a lot of ACORN there. You are aware that it was ACORN that informed the police, no? Also, in all instances I am aware of, it was due to workers being lazy and not doing their jobs. None of these resulted in voter fraud.
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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    How many three inch monkeys made of blue flame play professional basketball underneath the surface of Uranus?

    I guess your post means you have no data to provide us showing there is a actual problem with voter fraud.
    And people that keep their head in the sand will eventually die for lack of air.

    Anyways...every year of the term "Cold Case Files"? Its not just the name of some TV show ya know. But hey unless you honestly believe that every single crime that a person commites is prosecuted and convicted and recorded then explain to me why I have not been charged with all the crimes that I have committed in my lifetime.

    Also can you really expect LEO's to capture every single criminal? And for our courts to handle every single crime? Take a look at this...

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    fbi.gov

    This means that there are 14,764 murders per year.
    84,744 rapes per year.
    375,248 robberies per year.
    778,666 Aggravated Assualt per year.
    2,160,000 burglary's per year.
    6,183,529 larceny-theft per year.
    736,822 motor vehicle thefts per year.

    For a grand total of 10,319,009 crimes commited in one year.

    And that doesn't even include DWI's, drugs, white collar crime etc etc etc.

    So do you honestly believe that EVERYONE is ALWAYS convicted of every single crime that they commit?
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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    If he had he would have been committing voter fraud. The intent wasnt to commit fraud but to prove that it could be done...and very easily. Or do you really want to pretend those crafty poll workers were just waiting for him to actually vote and then pounce on him?
    So what we really have here is "look how easy it is to almost commit voter fraud" and not much more, if that voters eligibility had been challenged there is no need to "pounce on him", instead that challenged voter should have simply been directed to cast a provisional ballot. Remember, just because a person cast a ballot doesn't necessarily mean that their vote is actually going to count. Do you think we should be arresting people at the polls I wonder.

    But hey if you really want to crack down on cheating, go sign up to be a poll worker/election judge so that you can challenge all of those signatures(from the opposing party).





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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Lots of posturing (both sides) but I'm still waiting for an answer why is requiring voter ID a bad thing?

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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Lots of posturing (both sides) but I'm still waiting for an answer why is requiring voter ID a bad thing?
    Because it will discourage a lot of voters from voting, especially those who are poor. And at this point and time, it's difficult enough to get people to actually vote, let alone have to get an ID card.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Lots of posturing (both sides) but I'm still waiting for an answer why is requiring voter ID a bad thing?
    Supposedly because it "disenfranchises" a group of people. Apparently there are thousands of people that cannot get ID's....although I have yet to see any proof of that claim.
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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Because it will discourage a lot of voters from voting, especially those who are poor. And at this point and time, it's difficult enough to get people to actually vote, let alone have to get an ID card.
    How. I really don't see how this could happen. Again Sorry if I'm sounding uppity. I'm not American we require voter ID here and I see no problems with it.

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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    How. I really don't see how this could happen. Again Sorry if I'm sounding uppity. I'm not American we require voter ID here and I see no problems with it.
    Sweet, someone that lives in a country with voter ID laws. Can you tell me if anyone has not been able to vote because of that law? A simple look at a country with such laws in place for a decent amount of time would easily show whether it does stop people from voting.
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