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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    [...] Ie you shouldnt be just able to walk in or mail in a request for voter registration without any proof of eligibility. [...]
    You can't.

    So, your education on voting in America, which you could have researched yourself, continues to be a burden to others.

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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It is done simply and fast without the use of any formal picture ID. The people who work the election have a big book with a copy of my voters registration and signature. They give me a piece of paper on which I print my name and address and then sign it. They compare that to what is in the book and I have proven I am who I say I am. I then vote.
    Its a hell of a lot easier and more efficient to check a photo ID than to look through a big book.
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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Its a hell of a lot easier and more efficient to check a photo ID than to look through a big book.
    Baloney. Worse - its yesterdays baloney going down the porcelain receptacle. The traditional method of matching voter to their signature has never ever been an obstacle at all. They are set up to do that and it takes mere seconds.

    Voter suppression laws are about one thing and only one thing: conservatives finding a way to neutralize the demographic predictions for the white peoples party over the next thirty years.

    It is motivated by naked politics and not a small amount or racism thrown in.
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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Its a hell of a lot easier and more efficient to check a photo ID than to look through a big book.
    Be easier still to scan an inter-cranial RF ID chip inserted at birth.

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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    You can't.

    So, your education on voting in America, which you could have researched yourself, continues to be a burden to others.
    Why do you continue to take my posts out of context and ascribe things that arent there?
    Before you post anything you should probably understand what you are posting about. At no point did i mention this is how it was done. But i guess for an ideaologue anyone that MIGHT have a different opinion should be attacked at every possibility.
    Untill you actually make an intelligent post pelase stop embarrasing yourself by trying to belittle the posts of other ppl, it has the opposite effect of what you are trying to accomplish.

    To be blunt you are showing an incredible ignorance of anything I have posted to date!
    You insist on pointing out that ignorance by trying to insult me.


    Once again I will ask you
    If voter ID would cost the state nothing and disenfracnhise no one would you still be against it?
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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    It is motivated by naked politics and not a small amount or racism thrown in.
    Funny I could turn that completely around and say the same thing about the democrat position. Yeah, I think you are going back on ignore.

    No wonder you wanted to start a thread to redefine racism. You wanted to define it so you could throw the race card at every conservative policy idea you see.

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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Be easier still to scan an inter-cranial RF ID chip inserted at birth.
    Dont forget the mind control frequency. Don yon tin foil hat and onward!

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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    [...] At no point did i mention this is how it was done. [...]
    If you were aware of "how it was done", why create a false hypothetical?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    [...] Ie you shouldnt be just able to walk in or mail in a request for voter registration without any proof of eligibility. [...]
    Your posts are belittled because you are talking about something that is unrelated to the topic.... and you've been doing so all thru the thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Again we do this here in Canada (and many other jurisidctions) and there is no problem with the cost nor with people being disenfranchised. I do not see how it would become either expensive or disenfranchising in the states to use a system such as ours for voter ID
    The topic is not how you vote in Canada, or adopting the Canadian system, it is a state-issued photo ID voter requirement that is being introduced, in a coordinated manner, in numerous states by the GOP -- with the intent, in some people's opinion, to disenfranchise certain voters (and there are studies to support that); all of this in the face of an absolute lack of proof of the existence of the type of fraud that this new ID program is supposed to prevent.

    Instead of staying on that topic, you want to discuss voting in Canada with -- in my estimation -- no idea how it is done in the U.S. (as indicated by the clueless hypothetical above).

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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Karl try opening your mind just a little bit. I am proposing an alternative solution. Just because you do not like that idea doesn't mean it is of no value. Refusing to look at new ideas with an open mind is a sign of fanatacism.
    None of your points in regards to my posts have had any logic or sense behind them.

    The topic is not how you vote in Canada, or adopting the Canadian system, it is a state-issued photo ID voter requirement that is being introduced, in a coordinated manner, in numerous states by the GOP -- with the intent, in some people's opinion, to disenfranchise certain voters (and there are studies to support that); all of this in the face of an absolute lack of proof of the existence of the type of fraud that this new ID program is supposed to prevent.

    Instead of staying on that topic, you want to discuss voting in Canada with -- in my estimation -- no idea how it is done in the U.S. (as indicated by the clueless hypothetical above).
    Perhaps you should reread the OP. It is a debate about whether voter ID required. There may be a bill requesting state issued photo voter ID but even Kal'Stang said he does not demand a state issued voter photo ID card. It is you who are unclear on the topic of this thread. If you wish to start a thread dealing specifically and only with that issue by all means go ahead and start one. Even then, since when would proposing an alterate solution be unacceptable in a debate on ANY subject?

    I have proposed a solution, That I think should be acceptable to both sides. You refuse to answer why you think that is unacceptable. I will use your own lack of burden of proof on motives and state empahtically that you are against voter ID because you are a fanatic and as such your opinions should be automatically dismissed.
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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Karl try opening your mind just a little bit. I am proposing an alternative solution. [...]
    With no awareness of what is currently in place.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Perhaps you should reread the OP. It is a debate about whether voter ID required.
    Yes. What you don't understand, since you are unaware that this discussion has been going on in the U.S. for some six months or longer, is that the voter ID under discussion is a state-issued photo ID, which -- given many new terrorism laws -- is not all that simple to obtain (multiple identifying documents may be required). What you are also apparently unaware of, and uncaring of, is that many or most states currently have some type of ID requirement during the voting process, although it often is not as strict as what the Republicans are proposing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    There may be a bill requesting state issued photo voter ID but even Kal'Stang said he does not demand a state issued voter photo ID card.
    Once again, you are wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang, in post #245, replying to Quag View Post
    As long as it is an official state recognized ID I don't care one way or the other. A drivers license or basic ID or military ID card would be perfectly fine with me. No, school cards and the like allowed though.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang, in post #248, replying to Quag View Post
    Generally when people talk about ID in the US they are talking about photo ID. Just an FYI.

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