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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Really?
    I was under the impression both parties had to be present when votes were counted. My bad.
    it may not be the case with every voter machine, but in my voting district the machines also have a paper printout of every vote cast. The digital and paper printouts must match and the tallies must match the number of signatures in the books (and we have for as long as I can remember always had to show ID).

    maybe we should just have public executions (try anyone guilty of ANY type of intentional voter fraud for treason). Maybe if there was a zero tolerance policy (and not the wink wink, nudge nudge, hey guys...stop that bull****) with regard to election fraud of all type we wouldnt have reached this point.

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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Again, you don't have to spend money. Remember I did say that all of the voter ID laws that I have seen has allowed for a way to get the ID for free.
    People have a difficult time getting their asses off the couch to vote!!! It is naive, IMO, to think that people will take the time to do this.


    A bit hyper-bolic. But no, no freedom is taken away. All you have to do is go get that free ID or use an absentee ballot.
    During an election, all one has to do is go to a local polling station and cast a vote. Seems so easy right? Yet less than 60% seem to bother. When you add the need for a registration card, it would be silly to think that low number won't plunge any further.

    I'll repeat myself..perhaps a bit more clearly.

    Yes they are subject currently to being hacked and are prone to errors. But again they are new. As such until they are fixed and non-hackable I believe that any that are used should automatically print out who the person voted for so that the person can verify it and hand it in.

    Once the problems are fixed I see no problem with them. In fact I think that they can be a good thing considering the amount of paper that we use (and hence trees) in elections.

    But again...the problems MUST be fixed before we rely on them totally.
    So why is nobody bitching about this???

    The problems are NOT fixed. Don't you think this would be a more urgent thing to correct that voter ID cards? Jeepers!
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    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    I haver said how many times now I do not approuve of VOTER PHOTO ID cards. I said simply show ID we do it here in Canada, you have stated that as well. So where is the problem with showing ID?

    Again unless you are not 18 your OHIP card has your photo. If you are not 18 you cannot vote, so point is null.

    Again I will post elections canada site says what is required. Please tell me what part of this is wrong. A voter registration card alone is not sufficient.

    Elections Canada Online | Voter Identification at the Polls

    Not to get too personal middleground but where in Ottawa are you? I lived at U of O and near the airport along the Canal.
    The discussion here (unless I am totally out to lunch) is that nothing else would be valid in the US other than a voter card. No drivers license, no bill with address or any other form of ID. Just a voting card... period. Am I correct or wrong?
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    it may not be the case with every voter machine, but in my voting district the machines also have a paper printout of every vote cast. The digital and paper printouts must match and the tallies must match the number of signatures in the books (and we have for as long as I can remember always had to show ID).
    Thank you. It's good to know that some of them are more sophisticated.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    The discussion here (unless I am totally out to lunch) is that nothing else would be valid in the US other than a voter card. No drivers license, no bill with address or any other form of ID. Just a voting card... period. Am I correct or wrong?
    The voter phot ID was never mentioned untill later in this thread. My original post just asked what is wrong with an ID requirement. If ppl infer I meant voter photo ID card I cannot help it, but it think I I have made my opinions on that abundantly clear by now Perhaps it was implicit in the thread but it wasn`t mentioned. (It is possible I am out to lunch, not you. As you said we Quebeckers are weird)

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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    People have a difficult time getting their asses off the couch to vote!!! It is naive, IMO, to think that people will take the time to do this.
    That is irrelevent. If they are so lazy as to have a difficult time getting their asses off the couch to vote then that is their problem. Not anyone elses. Perhaps the exercise of going to the DMV will do them some good.

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    During an election, all one has to do is go to a local polling station and cast a vote. Seems so easy right? Yet less than 60% seem to bother. When you add the need for a registration card, it would be silly to think that low number won't plunge any further.
    In which case anyone and their mother could vote in our elections...including illegal immigrants, legal immigrants, Al Qaeda, Hitler (remember..dead people have been found to have votes in our elections) etc etc. Don't you think we need some way of telling whether American citizens are voting or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    So why is nobody bitching about this???

    The problems are NOT fixed. Don't you think this would be a more urgent thing to correct that voter ID cards? Jeepers!
    Who says that the problems are not being looked at and ways in which they can be fixed are not being done? Can't we work on two things at once?
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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Some states are currently closing some of their department of motor vehicle facilities locations while at the same time thousands of post offices will be closing throughout the nation(budget problems wink wink).

    We are so sorry that you may have to travel further to obtain an ID only to find you have to wait much longer in line due to the overcrowded facility, and hey we are really really sorry that you may have a harder time finding a place to mail those absentee ballots from(provided you received them in the first place).

    Nothing says America more than having to rely on a facility that may or may not be closed due to budget problems when you get there.

    This problem speaks volumes about how some people would seem to prefer a government that will work against them instead of for them.

    Smaller government should mean its harder to obtain a government ID and or mail that absentee ballot, wake up people.
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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Utility Man View Post
    Some states are currently closing some of their department of motor vehicle facilities locations while at the same time thousands of post offices will be closing throughout the nation(budget problems wink wink).

    We are so sorry that you may have to travel further to obtain an ID only to find you have to wait much longer in line due to the overcrowded facility, and hey we are really really sorry that you may have a harder time finding a place to mail those absentee ballots from(provided you received them in the first place).

    Nothing says America more than having to rely on a facility that may or may not be closed due to budget problems when you get there.

    This problem speaks volumes about how some people would seem to prefer a government that will work against them instead of for them.

    Smaller government should mean its harder to obtain a government ID and or mail that absentee ballot, wake up people.
    Couldnt have anything to do with a 16 trillion dollar national debt, states like California and Michigan near bankruptcy...right? nah...its an eeeeeevil diabolical ploy to surpress peoples rights. Hey...BTW...guess which presidents Homeland Security team has changed the laws mandating what is and isnt acceptable for applying for passports, drivers licenses, etc.

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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

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    Re: O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

    And as the sun begins to set, it looks like yet another in a long series of days where no verifiable data is presented demonstrating voter fraud convictions to any significant degree warranting this type of action.

    Maybe tomorrow? Cue the little girl

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