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    Re: Food Stamp Friday at the club! $5 off!

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    Agreed, people on welfare should be legally barred from doing anything but working while they are on welfare. They should submit a weekly financial report to prove not a single penny goes to anything each individual taxpayer wouldn't personally approve of. They should be ankle monitored, drug tested, and kept on 24 hour video surveillance to ensure they don't go out a spend money on wasteful things. They should also be forced to wear "welfare jumpsuits" so people can identify welfare recipients; any welfare recipients should be forced to thank each taxpayer they see in public.

    Gimmie a break. If you qualify for public assistance, you should get what you're alloted and that's it. You blow it all on clubs and nights out? Bad move, no more till next month. Each situation is different; single people get welfare, too. It's your money, you should be able to do what you want with it.
    That's not at all what I said.
    It's just that, you're not gonna get a whole lot of support for the "working poor" on government assistance
    When some of them are clearly using the system as a lifestyle support, rather than emergency assistance.
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    Re: Food Stamp Friday at the club! $5 off!

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That's not at all what I said.
    It's just that, you're not gonna get a whole lot of support for the "working poor" on government assistance
    When some of them are clearly using the system as a lifestyle support, rather than emergency assistance.
    I know, it was hyperbolic. I don't actually think that's what you want to do.

    If you qualify for assistance, it's your money. Why waste money worry about or trying ti track people's spending habits? It's a futile effort that I would assume would be more hassle compared to the possible, marginal benefits.

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    Re: Food Stamp Friday at the club! $5 off!

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    I know, it was hyperbolic. I don't actually think that's what you want to do.

    If you qualify for assistance, it's your money. Why waste money worry about or trying ti track people's spending habits? It's a futile effort that I would assume would be more hassle compared to the possible, marginal benefits.
    I'm not saying the government should track people.
    I'm saying that the beneficiaries should have enough personal ethics to not waste the money.

    It should be publicly shamed, rather than legally enforced.
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    Re: Food Stamp Friday at the club! $5 off!

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    How are they possibly gaming the system? Is any red cent of your tax dollars going to this club? No. So knock off the insincere outrage.
    You know what? The club could have a nazi only night and you
    Have to have a skinhead to get in and while I might be disgusted I wouldn't make as much of a fuss. Let me give you an example though of why if you can afford $10 drinks you don't need food stamps; and this is just one of dozens of examples I can give. I know two 22 year olds twins actually, at work. Both live with their parents both only make a little less than me along with their father (around 35k each without overtime and being in the car industry we get
    Lots of overtime) and there mom is a waitress. Their mom gets foodstamps
    For them and doesn't claim there income. They both have a car and brand new Kawasaki bikes, iPhones, brand new
    Clothes and shoes all the time etc. Meanwhile I don't **** the system make
    More than them and have a stay at home wife a daughter car payment and house. Yet because I don't game and the government just assumes this middle aged black woman cant make ends meet they help
    Her out. They are great guys to hang with after
    Work but it gets ridiculous after awhile to know several others game the same way.
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    Re: Food Stamp Friday at the club! $5 off!

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    You know what? The club could have a nazi only night and you
    Have to have a skinhead to get in and while I might be disgusted I wouldn't make as much of a fuss. Let me give you an example though of why if you can afford $10 drinks you don't need food stamps; and this is just one of dozens of examples I can give. I know two 22 year olds twins actually, at work. Both live with their parents both only make a little less than me along with their father (around 35k each without overtime and being in the car industry we get
    Lots of overtime) and there mom is a waitress. Their mom gets foodstamps
    For them and doesn't claim there income. They both have a car and brand new Kawasaki bikes, iPhones, brand new
    Clothes and shoes all the time etc. Meanwhile I don't **** the system make
    More than them and have a stay at home wife a daughter car payment and house. Yet because I don't game and the government just assumes this middle aged black woman cant make ends meet they help
    Her out. They are great guys to hang with after
    Work but it gets ridiculous after awhile to know several others game the same way.
    Wow, great job. You found an example of welfare fraud. It happens. If it bugs you, report it.

    Unfortunately, your story is 100% NOT applicable to a club offering a tongue-in-cheek discount for bein' poor.

    Unless this bar takes food stamps. Which it doesn't.

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    Re: Food Stamp Friday at the club! $5 off!

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I'm not saying the government should track people.
    I'm saying that the beneficiaries should have enough personal ethics to not waste the money.

    It should be publicly shamed, rather than legally enforced.
    And every should have a brand new puppy and a case of their soda of choice, since we're wishing for impossible things.

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    Re: Food Stamp Friday at the club! $5 off!

    Maybe I just haven't been to a club in a while but... is it really saying free before 10:30? Whatever happened to free before 11? The **** am I supposed to do at a club at 10:30?
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    Re: Food Stamp Friday at the club! $5 off!

    I have said it before I will say it again, food stamps should be replaced with vouchers for rice beans,potato's salt and vegetables, end this nonsense.

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    Re: Food Stamp Friday at the club! $5 off!

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I have said it before I will say it again, food stamps should be replaced with vouchers for rice beans,potato's salt and vegetables, end this nonsense.
    I'm all for that.

    Not the limited selection aspect, but we should use vouchers instead of cash.

    My thoughts are if you get cash, it's your money and you can spend it however you want. But you need to budget and it probably means cutting back. If you waste it all, you can't come back and ask for more. You get a set amount relative to your previous income or expenditure level and that's it. Spend it wisely. If you have extra left over to hit a club, go stimulate the economy. Whatever, it's already yours.

    But if we use vouchers or other non-cash means to give assistance to the poor, we automatically limit how they can use their benefits. If we adjust where recipients can use their benefits, we have a instant rectifying of wasteful spending.
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    Re: Food Stamp Friday at the club! $5 off!

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    I'm all for that.

    Not the limited selection aspect, but we should use vouchers instead of cash.

    My thoughts are if you get cash, it's your money and you can spend it however you want. But you need to budget and it probably means cutting back. If you waste it all, you can't come back and ask for more. You get a set amount relative to your previous income or expenditure level and that's it. Spend it wisely. If you have extra left over to hit a club, go stimulate the economy. Whatever, it's already yours.

    But if we use vouchers or other non-cash means to give assistance to the poor, we automatically limit how they can use their benefits. If we adjust where recipients can use their benefits, we have a instant rectifying of wasteful spending.
    They used to have the actual stamps and got rid of those because people were trading them for drugs/cash/other stuff.
    The ebt cards are abused in a similar manner.
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