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    Re: Democrats boycott Coke, Walmart over voter ID laws

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    You dont need a lame walmart job yet. Wait till they run a few thousand more business out of the US. Pretty soon you wont have a choice.
    If I have to work there, I already know it will be easy.

    See, funny thing is happening around here.
    Manufacturing is growing.
    Guess I have more choices than Walmart.
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    Re: Democrats boycott Coke, Walmart over voter ID laws

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Not the case so much in smaller towns where they become nearly the only game in town after they killed off your former job.
    You just moved the goal posts. Harry's response was in regards to somebody else's statement of "forced labor" in sweatshops. Or are you now calling Wal-Mart employees in the U.S. employees of "sweatshops"?
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    Re: Democrats boycott Coke, Walmart over voter ID laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Right.
    Why is it exploitation?

    Is someone not being a child prostitute an improvement or a detriment?
    You are making a false comparison to make your point. Prove that Chinese manufacturing jobs lowered child prostitution in that country. You don't help your argument when you make hyperbolistic fabrications like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Do you know that emerging economies can't just jump from mass poverty, to American standards of wealth and living?
    The thing is, you are assuming that being more westernized is "better for them".


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    When you stop trying to apply your American dream to everyone else as a standard, then you'll realize that "living better" for everyone isn't living more like you. Also, what is happening is that we are lowering our nation's standards in concert with trying to impose our standards of living on others. Not cool at all. If they want to be more like us, then they should meet our workers and environmental standards. Not us dropping to their third world emerging economy wages.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Democrats boycott Coke, Walmart over voter ID laws

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    You do realize that American wealth is dwindling don't you? Via channels like Walmart more and more of our money is on its way over to these emerging economies. Me personally I would like to see America continue to grow for future generations rather than destory our own economy for my own slight benefit now.
    First we pay them nothing and we're exploiting them, but now we're paying them enough that we're killing off all our wealth? Which is it? Seems pretty damn hard to be both.
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    Re: Democrats boycott Coke, Walmart over voter ID laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Are people only limited to working in their town?
    Do these people not have transportation?

    I'm not so sure you live in the United States that the rest of us do.
    By the way, jobs come and go, you aren't supposed to necessarily work at the same place all your life.
    Get over it.
    That whole schpeil of "they should just move" is always thrown out there by libertarians until it hits them and their family's traditions and generations of living on that land.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Democrats boycott Coke, Walmart over voter ID laws

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    If you want some information, you can look it up. Dont make demands of me because your lazy. The information is there if you wanted to see it.
    Apparently it's not, because I can return no google results of any legitimacy for "wal-mart is destroying america" or "killing of wal-mart will save america" or "killing off wal-mart would bring manufacturing back to america"....

    So...your move. Go ahead and prove ANY of the bullcrap you've posted in this thread. Even one tiny little point.
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    Re: Democrats boycott Coke, Walmart over voter ID laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    Very good point. I read a news piece back in the 90's that showed what some of these businesses were capable of. They would decide to build a manufacturing plant at X location where the average citizen may have a income of $2 USD per day. They would then offer $4 USD per day which in its self may seem a boon and had people lining up for it. What most failed to see or report is these businesses would then either purchase or negotiate with other busnisses (for a cut) in the area to raise prices on essentials foods/cloths/ect which nullified any wage increase the new plant offered and in many cases lowered the living conditions below previous levels. This left people without the option of returning to their former lives but instead forced them to remain employed by the new factories or starve. So while people may say "at least these people can now make more then before" it does not raise their quality of lives any.
    That used to be called "the coal miner's trap" where a coal mining town would be under the thumb of the coal mining company and they'd pay you slightly less than what they know you'd have to spend at the store... yes... owned by the coal mining company. Therefore you'd always be in debt to the coal mining company.

    Ernie Ford's song "16 tons" was specifically about that.


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    Re: Democrats boycott Coke, Walmart over voter ID laws

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    You are making a false comparison to make your point. Prove that Chinese manufacturing jobs lowered child prostitution in that country. You don't help your argument when you make hyperbolistic fabrications like that.
    I'll have to find it, but there was a ban on child labor, in Bangladesh, IIRC and the rate of child prostitution went up.
    Very interesting find.

    But none the less, there are proven statistics on poverty in other nations.
    About half the worlds population lives on $2 or less a day.
    Spending 70% of their income on food.
    Allowing them and yes even their children to work, builds wealth for those impoverished individuals.

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    The thing is, you are assuming that being more westernized is "better for them".
    Who said anything about changing their culture.
    We're talking about, not denying them opportunity based on some subjective view of exploitation.

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    Meaningless quote.

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    When you stop trying to apply your American dream to everyone else as a standard, then you'll realize that "living better" for everyone isn't living more like you. Also, what is happening is that we are lowering our nation's standards in concert with trying to impose our standards of living on others. Not cool at all. If they want to be more like us, then they should meet our workers and environmental standards. Not us dropping to their third world emerging economy wages.
    I don't expect anyone to "live like me" just don't cry like a baby, if your Walmart job doesn't pay enough.
    It's a basic job, not requiring any real specialized knowledge or abilities.

    You can't expect emerging economies to be able to instantly adopt American standards.
    It's not possible and just a retarded attempt at American protectionism.
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    Re: Democrats boycott Coke, Walmart over voter ID laws

    This reminds me of how the OWS movement boycotted other businesses. It didn't end well, and only hurt their cause.

    The same will probably hold true for these shmucks as well.

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    Re: Democrats boycott Coke, Walmart over voter ID laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    How does it help locals more?
    Far more of the money spent locally stays local then if you buy at a giant retail store which funnels as much as they can back to HQ... Bentonville, AR in this case.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I've done that type of work.
    I graduated into factory labor and warehousing.
    I don't need a lame Walmart job.
    That doesn't belay the point that it is in fact hard physical labor. Which is what you are implying it wasn't in the thread I was replying to.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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