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    Re: Democrats boycott Coke, Walmart over voter ID laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Fair is a subjective term, you can't tease out what is fair, by simply saying, "it's not fair."

    So effing what, businesses fail all the time, for a variety of reasons.
    Why should local businesses be favored anymore than any other business?
    Because it helps the locals more which is kind of what life is all about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Walmart pays a decent wage, for the work being done.
    It's not rocket surgery, Walmart jobs just aren't that demanding in physical or mental effort.
    My Sam's club job was rather physically demanding. Go sign up to work a night in the giant cooler and tell me about your sore muscles the next day after working just one pallet of cheese.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Democrats boycott Coke, Walmart over voter ID laws

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Not the case so much in smaller towns where they become nearly the only game in town after they killed off your former job.
    Are people only limited to working in their town?
    Do these people not have transportation?

    I'm not so sure you live in the United States that the rest of us do.
    By the way, jobs come and go, you aren't supposed to necessarily work at the same place all your life.
    Get over it.
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    Re: Democrats boycott Coke, Walmart over voter ID laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Right.
    Why is it exploitation?

    Is someone not being a child prostitute an improvement or a detriment?
    Do you know that emerging economies can't just jump from mass poverty, to American standards of wealth and living?
    You do realize that American wealth is dwindling don't you? Via channels like Walmart more and more of our money is on its way over to these emerging economies. Me personally I would like to see America continue to grow for future generations rather than destory our own economy for my own slight benefit now.
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    Re: Democrats boycott Coke, Walmart over voter ID laws

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    "Improvement" in this scenario is a very subjective term. Changing from more agrarian to manufacturing and saying that "look, they make more money now" is an improvement... well that is up for debate. More money does not exactly mean someone is doing better.
    Very good point. I read a news piece back in the 90's that showed what some of these businesses were capable of. They would decide to build a manufacturing plant at X location where the average citizen may have a income of $2 USD per day. They would then offer $4 USD per day which in its self may seem a boon and had people lining up for it. What most failed to see or report is these businesses would then either purchase or negotiate with other busnisses (for a cut) in the area to raise prices on essentials foods/cloths/ect which nullified any wage increase the new plant offered and in many cases lowered the living conditions below previous levels. This left people without the option of returning to their former lives but instead forced them to remain employed by the new factories or starve. So while people may say "at least these people can now make more then before" it does not raise their quality of lives any.

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    Re: Democrats boycott Coke, Walmart over voter ID laws

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Because it helps the locals more which is kind of what life is all about.
    How does it help locals more?

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    My Sam's club job was rather physically demanding. Go sign up to work a night in the giant cooler and tell me about your sore muscles the next day after working just one pallet of cheese.
    I've done that type of work.
    I graduated into factory labor and warehousing.
    I don't need a lame Walmart job.
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    Re: Democrats boycott Coke, Walmart over voter ID laws

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Do your own research on how chinese sweat shops dont pay anything resembling fair wages. Go look up how that affects pricing of products and how american companies paying a decent wage with benefits can't compete with companies paying less than a dollar an hour. Go look up the number of businesses that went under because walmart came to town. Go look up walmarts employee pay and benefits. Google can help you quite a bit. If you dont like google yahoo has a search engine too.
    Hi, this is the real world. In the real world you're responsible for defending your ridiculous, moronic claims. Forgive me if I (and others) refuse to take seriously any post filled with unsupported, exaggerated, nonsensical conjecture and assumption. If you want to convince people of your view (and I would assume you would, based on the oh-so-passionate presentation), you would do well to invest the time in actually proving your point. But since you've obviously decided to avoid providing proof, I'll just go on assuming you are completely, wholeheartedly, and almost unabashedly incorrect.
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    Re: Democrats boycott Coke, Walmart over voter ID laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    How does it help locals more?



    I've done that type of work.
    I graduated into factory labor and warehousing.
    I don't need a lame Walmart job.
    You dont need a lame walmart job yet. Wait till they run a few thousand more business out of the US. Pretty soon you wont have a choice.
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    Re: Democrats boycott Coke, Walmart over voter ID laws

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    You do realize that American wealth is dwindling don't you? Via channels like Walmart more and more of our money is on its way over to these emerging economies. Me personally I would like to see America continue to grow for future generations rather than destory our own economy for my own slight benefit now.
    Wealth is in constant flux.
    Do people in emerging economies not deserve to improve their living standards.
    On one hand you say it exploits those people, now you're saying they're taking our money.

    Your "care" for them seems to be superficial.
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    Re: Democrats boycott Coke, Walmart over voter ID laws

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Hi, this is the real world. In the real world you're responsible for defending your ridiculous, moronic claims. Forgive me if I (and others) refuse to take seriously any post filled with unsupported, exaggerated, nonsensical conjecture and assumption. If you want to convince people of your view (and I would assume you would, based on the oh-so-passionate presentation), you would do will to invest the time in actually proving your point. But since you've obviously decided to avoid providing proof, I'll just go on assuming you are completely, wholeheartedly, and almost unabashedly incorrect.
    If you want some information, you can look it up. Dont make demands of me because your lazy. The information is there if you wanted to see it.
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    Re: Democrats boycott Coke, Walmart over voter ID laws

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    they do it by encouraging sweat shops and extreme poverty and horrid working conditions for people all over the world. They do it by taking over towns economies and forcing their competition to shut down. They do it by ruinging small businesses. They do it by treating their employees like utter **** with crap wages and even ****tier benefits. They do it by selling the lowest quality of products imaginable. Walmart incorporates every dirty tactic they can to benefit themselves. Walmart is why our economy, and much of the worlds economy is going to ****. Nothing walmart does benefits humanity in any way.

    You have...displeased...the Walmart.
    Zyphlin's Law

    While in general I wouldn't shed a huge tear if Walmart went away (Well, until you need new glasses late at night. Where else are you going to get new glasses at that hour?), I don't think this boycott will do much good. I think too many people in general, especially in smaller towns, see Walmart as too easy of a convienence to disregard for political reasons.

    And yeah, Coke's not going to get hurt. May as well boycott McDonald's while you're at it.

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