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    Re: Solar company bankrupt despite 'win-win' DOE loan

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    That would be nice, or it could be a kind or type of renewable energy (e.g., Wind, Solar, Hydro-electric, Thermo-electric, Wave, Hydro-turbine, Tidal, diesel from trash). Natural gas is NOT a renewable. It's also a finite resource, therefore not a renewable resource. It's interesting that you mention batteries. That's a step forward. We need better batteries for use in EVs or for holding energy from intermittent power sources like Wind and Solar. As long as you would support public funding for battery tech for use in utilities or EVs, I would could count that as support for renewables since batteries are an important part of the renewable solution.

    My point is, you can't say that you support renewables when you fail to support every single renewable solution available. Make sense?
    By supporting it do you mean financially?

    I haven't seen anything that would interest me at the moment but also haven't been doing much research.

    Natural gas is finite? I see you've done your homework.

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    Re: Solar company bankrupt despite 'win-win' DOE loan

    Technically hydrocarbons are "renewable" too.

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    Re: Solar company bankrupt despite 'win-win' DOE loan

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No it doesn't. Private investment into startups still fail all the freaking time.
    Private investments are made with more knowledge because individuals have their wealth at stake. They are also funded by private investors and not our tax dollars.
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    Re: Solar company bankrupt despite 'win-win' DOE loan

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    By supporting it do you mean financially?

    I haven't seen anything that would interest me at the moment but also haven't been doing much research.

    Natural gas is finite? I see you've done your homework.
    No, not financially. Just what renewables would you like to see employed as part of the national energy grid?
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    Re: Solar company bankrupt despite 'win-win' DOE loan

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    I'm not going to play your little pedantic word game.

    I pointed out the fallacy of your logic. The same logic many use. If you do not support 'xxxxxx' then you are horrible and want the children to suffer. It's all quite silly and transparent. You verified it again when you said that if he supported 'public funding' of something then he was for that something, suggesting if he did not support public funding, he was against the whole thing.
    If someone is against renewables because of 'public support,' that's one thing. They are claiming the issue is public support for industry which smacks of Communism. I would understand this complaint. If people don't want government money funding the energy industry, then those same people should be far more unhappy with the 'public support' for the oil industry. If they are okay with the 'public support' for the oil industry, but not okay with 'public support' for renewables, they make it clear that 'public support' is not the true issue. It's what the 'public support' is for that is an issue for them. There's nothing pedantic about it, it's simple logic and common sense. It's not a matter of you're for us or against us, it's a matter of stating one thing, but by actions stating another.

    If someone rails against subsidies for renewables and then likewise rails against against subsidies for oil, this is consistent. I would understand that. But that isn't what I'm seeing here.
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    Re: Solar company bankrupt despite 'win-win' DOE loan

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Yet another example of what I mentioned above in post 172.

    How about them apples Grant? You are good, if you support 'public funding'... otherwise, you DO NOT SUPPORT RENEWABLES.
    Yep. But that seems to be the trend these days, Arbo. Political leaders have managed to divide society into us and them, with more class warfare on the way, and the leftists are expected to slavishly follow the party line. The line ups for Kool Aid are blocks long.

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    Re: Solar company bankrupt despite 'win-win' DOE loan

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yep. But that seems to be the trend these days, Arbo. Political leaders have managed to divide society into us and them, with more class warfare on the way, and the leftists are expected to slavishly follow the party line. The line ups for Kool Aid are blocks long.
    Wait a second here. Which side of the fence is always trying to figure out who is the true?

    Hint it ain't the party of non conservatives.
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    Re: Solar company bankrupt despite 'win-win' DOE loan

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    No, not financially. Just what renewables would you like to see employed as part of the national energy grid?
    Whatever are you talking about? Are you asking me what I want the government to do as far as a national energy program is concerned?

    Tell me how much energy the Department of Energy has created for its multi billion dollar annual budget,

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    Re: Solar company bankrupt despite 'win-win' DOE loan

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Wait a second here. Which side of the fence is always trying to figure out who is the true?

    Hint it ain't the party of non conservatives.
    Have no idea what you're talking about.

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    Re: Solar company bankrupt despite 'win-win' DOE loan

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Have no idea what you're talking about.
    I was commenting on the party line comment and how conservatives are always tossing around the RINO and or not true conservative talking point.

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