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    Appeals Court Fires Back At Obama's Comments

    In the escalating battle between the administration and the judiciary, a federal appeals court apparently is calling the president's bluff -- ordering the Justice Department to answer by Thursday whether the Obama Administration believes that the courts have the right to strike down a federal law, according to a lawyer who was in the courtroom.

    Overturning a law of course would not be unprecedented -- since the Supreme Court since 1803 has asserted the power to strike down laws it interprets as unconstitutional. The three-judge appellate court appears to be asking the administration to admit that basic premise -- despite the president's remarks that implied the contrary. The panel ordered the Justice Department to submit a three-page, single-spaced letter by noon Thursday addressing whether the Executive Branch believes courts have such power, the lawyer said.
    Appeals court fires back at Obama's comments on health care case - Crossroads - CBS News

    Looks like Holder has some homework to do.
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    Re: Appeals Court Fires Back At Obama's Comments

    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    That's good stuff right there.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Appeals Court Fires Back At Obama's Comments

    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    I'm somewhat confused by the article...excerpt:

    (CBS News) In the escalating battle between the administration and the judiciary, a federal appeals court apparently is calling the president's bluff -- ordering the Justice Department to answer by Thursday whether the Obama Administration believes that the courts have the right to strike down a federal law, according to a lawyer who was in the courtroom.
    Ordering the Justice Dept to answer whether the Obama Admin believes.... Is it just me? Does that make sense? Maybe the Justice Dept is part of the Obama Administration? Okay, I admit it. I don't know. But this sounds b.i.g.
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    Re: Appeals Court Fires Back At Obama's Comments

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    That's good stuff right there.
    I liked the "three page single spaced" requirement. Sounds like something my 10th grade English teacher would say.

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    Re: Appeals Court Fires Back At Obama's Comments

    Obama's basic argument is that the constitution is obsolete.

    It's kind of refreshing to be honest about it for a change. We don't ever amend it anymore, because he is right, whatever the democratically elected majority want they can get.

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    Re: Appeals Court Fires Back At Obama's Comments

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    Obama's basic argument is that the constitution is obsolete.

    It's kind of refreshing to be honest about it for a change. We don't ever amend it anymore, because he is right, whatever the democratically elected majority want they can get.
    Obama walked his veiled threat back yesterday.... classic!
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Appeals Court Fires Back At Obama's Comments

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    Obama's basic argument is that the constitution is obsolete.

    It's kind of refreshing to be honest about it for a change. We don't ever amend it anymore, because he is right, whatever the democratically elected majority want they can get.
    Not obsolete, but never any good to start with. It was written by rich, white slave owners for one, and rugged individualism (the core of American society and the foundation of liberty) never worked.
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    Re: Appeals Court Fires Back At Obama's Comments

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Obama walked his veiled threat back yesterday.... classic!
    Here's the link, interesting read:

    Bruised Obama tries to walk back his attack on the Supreme Court - Right Turn - The Washington Post

    He should make a hastey retreat from his initial remarks. Questioning the legitimacy of SCOTUS's decisions, telling the American public what he thinks going on in minds of the justices, saying, in effect, that it would be a mis-use of their powers to rule against him, is wrong. I'm betting that whoever shoved those notes under his nose has some 'splainin' to do.
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    Re: Appeals Court Fires Back At Obama's Comments

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Not obsolete, but never any good to start with. It was written by rich, white slave owners for one, and rugged individualism (the core of American society and the foundation of liberty) never worked.
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    Re: Appeals Court Fires Back At Obama's Comments

    U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said Wednesday that the Justice Department will respond "appropriately" to a federal appellate judge in Texas who demanded a letter recognizing the authority of the federal courts to strike down laws passed by Congress.

    "What the president said a couple of days ago was appropriate. He indicated that we obviously respect the decisions that courts make," Holder said at a press conference in Chicago. "Under our system of government ... courts have the final say on the constitutionality of statutes. The courts are also fairly deferential when it comes to overturning statutes that the duly elected representatives of the people, Congress, pass."

    Holder said he's confident the Supreme Court will find the Affordable Care Act constitutional "given the adequate, able representation" the law had during arguments before the justices. He said Solicitor General Donald Verrilli Jr. "did a great job."
    My Way News - Holder: Justice Department will respond to judge

    Great job Brownie.

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